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Health care worker at Dallas hospital tests positive for Ebola

Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:15 am
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
Stump Toe, Ar
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:15 am
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A health care worker at a Dallas hospital tested positive for Ebola in a preliminary test, the Texas Department of State Health Services said in a statement early Sunday.

The health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, who was not identified in the statement, provided care for Thomas Eric Duncan, the first Ebola patient in the United States, who died last week.

If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.




Obola staaaaacked

Texas Fuuuuuucked

Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:24 am to
Zombie apocalypse starting at a Texas hospital? It's more likely than you think.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19209 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:05 am to

I'm in healthcare and I'm well versed in CDC Bloodborne Pathogen protocols and OSHA procedures.

I already have masks, tyvek gowns, face shields, and utility & treatment gloves at my house. I've used them for other random tasks but I will probably be beefing up my stocks.

I am more than a little concerned.

Anyone have a date of when patient zero(U.S.) first went to the hospital?
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
Stump Toe, Ar
Member since May 2014
1082 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:17 am to
The nurse was involved in Duncan's second visit to the hospital, when he was admitted for treatment, and was wearing protective gear as prescribed by the CDC: gown, gloves, mask and shield, Varga said.

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Stay safe
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:20 am to
Duncan initial visit: sept 25. He is turned away. I think he went back two days later so that's Sept 27.

The timelines don't match with a 21 day incubation now that a worker in PPE ( personal protective equipment) has tested positive as of last night October 11. That is a window of only 14 days. The virus has shortened its incubation by 1/3 yet the govt is still putting out a 21 day incubation.

This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 9:28 am
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
Stump Toe, Ar
Member since May 2014
1082 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:24 am to
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yet the govt is still putting out a 21 day incubation


From what I recall, they have always said that it can be "up to 21 days".
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19209 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:27 am to
Okay I've missed that nuance.






I can say with 100% certainty that although there are good and proper guidelines in place they may not be being followed to the letter. The human factor fricks everything up.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 9:29 am
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:01 am to
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I can say with 100% certainty that although there are good and proper guidelines in place they may not be being followed to the letter. The human factor fricks everything up.

I posted a week ago or so a quote from a international worker who said that he was concerned because people were contracting the disease even while they were wearing protective gear. It was dismissed. Let's revisit. The Spanish nurse who contracted ebola wore protective gear. This healthcare worker in Dallas is reported to have worn protective gear and still contracted Ebola.

We are missing something as to how this disease is transmitted.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19209 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:05 am to
Agree. Something is being missed.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:28 am to
The Spanish worker touched her exposed face with a gloved hand while she was taking her suit off.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:55 am to
probably the same case in Dallas. However Ebola should have never made it here if we had a competent leader in place that put in proper measures like cutting off air travel to africa and then putting people in 21 day quarantine if they absolutely have to travel back here from Africa.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15301 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:57 am to
My sister works for a hospital here in Houston and she called me last night to tell me she feels led to go to ground zero in Africa and help with ebola treatment. She has family so I was pretty stunned. I guess some hero's have to go to fix this pandemic but it was tough initially to give her support on this decision.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:02 am to
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Agree. Something is being missed.


The missing something is carelessness. As TheCheshireHog said, the Spanish nurse was careless when taking off her protective suit. It may cost her life. It has already cost her 12-year-old dog's life.

This can't be repeated enough: Ebola is not an airborne virus, at least in the technical sense. While it certainly is present in saliva and sputum from the lungs, it does not spread in aerosoized spray similar to flu or cold viruses.

Large droplets can be coughed or spit from one person to another, but that would count as bodily fluids. Also, when the droplets come to rest on surfaces they can be picked up by others when touched.

While Ebola is highly infectious, it is not classified as an airborne disease.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:08 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:47 pm to
Not a surprise at all. Who still thinks this is not an airborne disease.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

We are missing something as to how this disease is transmitted.


Given that the precautions used are intended to protect from all possible transmission routes, the safe assumption is that everyone who has caught it broke protocol in some form or fashion. Proper protocol should prevent transmission of airborne viruses just as well.

We arent missing anything, a lot of nurses just arent very good at their jobs. In the med center in Houston, hundreds are written up or fired every month for breaking precautionary measures. They have programmed routines and when that is disrupted they make mistakes.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Not a surprise at all. Who still thinks this is not an airborne disease.


Everyone who has any understanding of the virus at all.

And being airborne wouldnt help if proper precautions were taken.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119110 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Given that the precautions used are intended to protect from all possible transmission routes, the safe assumption is that everyone who has caught it broke protocol in some form or fashion. Proper protocol should prevent transmission of airborne viruses just as well.

We arent missing anything, a lot of nurses just arent very good at their jobs. In the med center in Houston, hundreds are written up or fired every month for breaking precautionary measures. They have programmed routines and when that is disrupted they make mistakes.



You can't possibly be serious. I'm pretty sure medical personnel dealing with a known ebola patient will take every precaution possible. Don't go full retard.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure medical personnel dealing with a known ebola patient will take every precaution possible.


They don't, I see it every day. TB is more more contagious than ebola and nurses break protocol literally daily with Houston TB patients.

The fact that it is an unfamiliar set of protocols for them make it even more likely they screw up.

quote:

Don't go full retard.



Again, I interact with this element of society every single day. It's surprising when a patient with precautions DOESNT have those precautions broken at least once.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119110 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:41 pm to
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Roger Klarvin


Fair enough, it sounds like you are more knowledgeable on the subject than me. For any health care worker not to be ultra precautious in those environments boggles my mind.

However, I did see the staff smoking area in front of UK today when we were driving by. Doctors and nurses smoking up a storm and throwing their butts on the sidewalk, when there was a place for them to be properly disposed of 5 feet away.
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