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re: Birmingham City Council votes to increase minimum wage to $10.10
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:14 pm to Rebel Land Shark
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:14 pm to Rebel Land Shark
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If you make minimum wage you shouldn't be making babies
people don't see this though. Just like the guy in the video that "loves working as a fry cook at KFC" because he loved feeding people, he thought he deserved more money because he was a veteran. No matter what your previous skills or training is, your current job is what your pay is based on.
The way I think of minimum wage jobs is this: if I can walk into a parking lot and point at any random person and they can replace you with ten minutes of instruction then you don't deserve more money.
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:15 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:17 pm to Theoldgraycoat
quote:So the problem you see here is the minimum wage, not that someone with a masters is making $13?
Some with multiple degrees and masters. We are very good friends with a few of them. They make anywhere from 13-17 an hour.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:28 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Mistakes happen.
We can't externalize our own mistakes on others. The more we permit this, the more likely it is that people don't think about consequences.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:30 pm to Warfarer
quote:and the dignity of work and all that shite
if I can walk into a parking lot and point at any random person and they can replace you with ten minutes of instruction then you don't deserve more money.
The way I see it if they can replace you with 10 mins of instructions they should get to pay you 10 cents an hour and frick you up the arse whenever they want
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:14 pm to BowlJackson
For the record guys, UAB Medical system is doing this on their own regardless of the city council. They announced it to employees almost a month ago. I dunno about the University.
Not only that, they are giving a raise to everyone making under $17 an hour as well, and they said it would be scaled to the new UAB employee minimum wage.
Thought I'm not 100% sure what that means. I'm hoping it means my wife will go from $13.50/hr to $16.50. But we all know that isn't true. Honestly, flabbergasted to the point of being stupefied is how I would describe my reaction, if her raise is more than $0.75/hr.
Not only that, they are giving a raise to everyone making under $17 an hour as well, and they said it would be scaled to the new UAB employee minimum wage.
Thought I'm not 100% sure what that means. I'm hoping it means my wife will go from $13.50/hr to $16.50. But we all know that isn't true. Honestly, flabbergasted to the point of being stupefied is how I would describe my reaction, if her raise is more than $0.75/hr.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:29 pm to BowlJackson
Good. And frick the legislature in Montgomery for trying to impose their backwards views on cities across the state.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:32 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:Typically when the minimum goes up jobs on lower end of the scale also go up. Takes a while
Thought I'm not 100% sure what that means. I'm hoping it means my wife will go from $13.50/hr to $16.50.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:53 pm to HempHead
quote:That's cold hearted garbage. Not everyone has had the advantages that you and I have had. It's reasonable to pay these people 9 to 10 an hour. Most of them are working hard. At least reward them for working hard and not sitting at home.
Newsflash: if you're only skilled enough to earn minimum wage, you probably shouldn't put yourself in a position to have a child.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:01 pm to Pavoloco83
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Get ready for a 6 buck big mac.
It won't make a difference in the bottom line. The price elasticity of demand for fast food shows that people who already pay the prices will buy fast food at an increased price.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:38 pm to MIZ_COU
No. They're both obviously problems and we should encourage higher wages for people deserving of them before we start forcing higher costs across the board for people with barely a high school education. That's the point I was trying to make. If the government wants to force that on private companies, they should first pay people like social workers more. Wages are obviously higher for social workers in the private sector but, not by much.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:36 am to BowlJackson
Hell, why not $100 an hour? Poverty would be wiped out overnight. shite, while we're at it, how's about the same pay for all? Doctor, garbage truck guy, lawyer, burger flipper, $100 an hour!
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:41 am to airfernando
quote:Oh please. There's plenty of opportunities to better yourself and your situation if you have commitment and drive.
Not everyone has had the advantages that you and I have had
quote:Another lie. Most of them are working those jobs because they don't know how to work hard. Why is turnover rates in low skill labor typically higher than technical labor? It's not because they're leaving for better opportunities
It's reasonable to pay these people 9 to 10 an hour. Most of them are working hard
quote:I agree with this obviously as does everyone else paying taxes.
At least reward them for working hard and not sitting at home.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:44 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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Good. And frick the legislature in Montgomery for trying to impose their backwards views on cities across the state.
The fricking that is about to happpen is what's going to be done to Birmingham for spitting in the face of the legislature.
The legislature has the authority to make the bill they're passing apply to ordinances already in effect. They can simply nuke Birmingham's end-run attempt from orbit and you can bet they'll do it. Further, many people (including the AG) are saying they can't legally pass an ordinance and place it into effect this quickly.
In short, I hope they enjoyed their headline. They're going to see their ordinance nuked, probably get sued and incur legal fees, and any local legislation they might really need to address actual important issues is now dead. It won't even get out of committee.
They just started a gunfight without so much as a cap gun to their name.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:06 am to JustGetItRight
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any local legislation they might really need to address actual important issues is now dead.
That's nothing new. The legislature has been doing all they can to handicap Birmingham for a few years now. Not that the Birmingham city government has done much to help itself.
I'm indifferent on this minimum wage increase, and have no love lost for the Birmingham city government, but it is kind of BS that lawmakers from across the state can write and vote on bills that don't impact their districts. Our state constitution is suck a joke.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:25 am to Theoldgraycoat
So you think $13 an hour for someone with a masters is a fair wage? I think you're on the wrong side of this argument.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:39 am to The Spleen
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it is kind of BS that lawmakers from across the state can write and vote on bills that don't impact their district
I hate to break it to you, but state legislature preemption is pretty much the norm for every state in the union and it isn't a R-D issue. Liberal California, for example, recently blocked local jurisdictions from passing their own requirements for nutrition labels on restaurant menus.
In short, states are sovereign entities, cities and counties are not. They're political subdivisions of that entity and only have the rights that sovereign chooses to grant them.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:51 am to JustGetItRight
Yeah, I realize that and this example is probably not the best one to rail on our constitution, but I couldn't resist.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:05 am to BowlJackson
If they're making 10.10 an hour hopefully they can actually get a damn order correct and show some hospitality finally.... Doubt this happens though.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:15 am to five_fivesix
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Hell, why not $100 an hour? Poverty would be wiped out overnight. shite, while we're at it, how's about the same pay for all? Doctor, garbage truck guy, lawyer, burger flipper, $100 an hou
Not everyone aspires to be a Doctor, Lawyer, etc. There are only so many "good" jobs. Some make it seem like everyone should have a good paying job. If that is the case, then there would be no one performing the jobs no one wants. What is wrong with paying people a living wage for jobs none of us would want to perform? $7.25 is not a living wage in today's world. If you think you can survive on that I wish you the best of luck.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:28 am
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