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Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I think the guy they were going for was a suspected coke dealer. I would think most coke dealers are probably a.) paranoid b.) have weapons. The no knock shite makes the situation even more dangerous.
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:48 pm to RDRGeaux09
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Once again I jus said that black on black crime is a falsehood
Once again you're wrong about everything but the opportunity and proximity part.
I posted the numbers upthread. The leading cause of death for a black teenaged male is another black teenage male. In fact, homicide kills more teenage black males than all other causes combined.
MORE THAN ALL OTHER CAUSES COMBINED
Homicide is responsible for less than 10% of deaths for similarly aged white males. There's no difference in proximity and opportunity. Heck, gun ownership is vastly higher among white teen males (particularly in the south) so all things equal you think it would be higher, but it isn't.
Let that sink in for a minute and see if you can come back and tell me that black on black crime is a falsehood.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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No knock warrants just seem like an awful idea. Maybe they are necessary in some cases, I don't know, but I wouldn't be too pumped about serving one if I was a cop
exactly. that was the nature of the conversation with the KPD officer I know.
they have their place, but the force better not get pissed when it backfires. i personally would not want to serve one for any reason.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:55 pm to 3nOut
seems like it would be a good idea for a pedo or something similiar that could be a flight risk. not so good for a strapped drug dealer.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:56 pm to 3nOut
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they have their place, but the force better not get pissed when it backfires.
Yeah, it just kind of sucks for all involved. It's not like the poor guy who's the first one through the door is the one making the policy decision that no knock warrants will be served or making the court ruling that they're legal or anything. I see what you're saying though, it's what they signed up for.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:58 pm to NIH
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seems like it would be a good idea for a pedo or something similiar that could be a flight risk. not so good for a strapped drug dealer.
interestingly the gentleman i know is on Vice so he's specifically targeting drug rings, prostitution, and gambling, so he's involved quite a bit. for him it's more undercover work and then lets swat do its thing afterwards.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:33 pm to 3nOut
I could never work vice. Targetting 3 activities that a large portion of the population participates in at some point or regularly in their life.
None of which should be illegal in the first place and is all just arbitrarily legistlated morality.
None of which should be illegal in the first place and is all just arbitrarily legistlated morality.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:33 pm to 3nOut
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interestingly the gentleman i know is on Vice so he's specifically targeting drug rings, prostitution, and gambling, so he's involved quite a bit. for him it's more undercover work and then lets swat do its thing afterwards.
Yup. I'm intimately familiar with that.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:36 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Targetting 3 activities that a large portion of the population participates in at some point or regularly in their life.
None of which should be illegal in the first place and is all just arbitrarily legistlated morality.
i'm sure all the underage girls he's gotten out of prostitution rings feel the same way.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:12 pm to 3nOut
Charles C. Johnson ?@ChuckCJohnson · 3m
News tip from law enforcement source: #MichaelBrown Brown was charged with 2nd degree murder as a juvenile. Confirming now... #Ferguson
News tip from law enforcement source: #MichaelBrown Brown was charged with 2nd degree murder as a juvenile. Confirming now... #Ferguson
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:29 pm to Alahunter
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#MichaelBrown Brown was charged with 2nd degree murder as a juvenile. Confirming now... #Ferguson
Well...that's a game changer.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:36 pm to AUnite
really all this stuff takes away the innocent black teen narrative. It doesn't prove much as far as justifying the shooting. The autopsy coming back saying all shots from the front is a bigger boom to the actual case.
IMO no knock warrants should very rarely ever be used. It seems highly dangerous considering what could happen if they go to the wrong address which they do sometimes. I feel like more under cover work and following a suspect would be better than storming in the house at 4 am without knowing if other occupants are inside the house.
IMO no knock warrants should very rarely ever be used. It seems highly dangerous considering what could happen if they go to the wrong address which they do sometimes. I feel like more under cover work and following a suspect would be better than storming in the house at 4 am without knowing if other occupants are inside the house.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:38 pm to Alahunter
Shocking. Lol
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:39 pm to heartbreakTiger
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. It doesn't prove much as far as justifying the shooting.
Agree, however, if true, it shows that MB has been extremely violent in the past. Just my two cents.
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The autopsy coming back saying all shots from the front is a bigger boom to the actual case.
Absofrickinglutely.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:40 pm to AUnite
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Well...that's a game changer.
The media (and protesters) will downplay that as 'trying to deflect.'
Hey, IF the cop shot Brown when there clearly was no threat, then there needs to be charges against the cop.
However, it's definitely not a 'good boy not bothering nobody'. Brown is looking more and more like he could have been threatening the officer.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:44 pm to WonderWartHawg
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The media (and protesters) will downplay that as 'trying to deflect.'
Nailed it.
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IF the cop shot Brown when there clearly was no threat, then there needs to be charges against the cop.
It's going to be hard to prove that the cop didn't feel threatened. No one knows what was going on his head during this altercation but him.
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However, it's definitely not a 'good boy not bothering nobody'. Brown is looking more and more like he could have been threatening the officer.
That went out the window when it was shown that he committed a strong-arm robbery less than 30 minutes before the shooting. Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:48 pm to Alahunter
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News tip from law enforcement source: #MichaelBrown Brown was charged with 2nd degree murder as a juvenile. Confirming now... #Ferguson
if true, i'm done with the whole debacle. ****show going to ****show.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:52 pm to AUnite
i agree it shows he is a violent threat which destroys the narrative that a cop shot a innocent harmless teen. It also helps explain why he possibly would charge at the cop. The story has a lot of interesting layers to it. The narrative of a innocent teen- blown up, the shooting was it justified? looking like it was. The rioting and the talk about the way the police department handled the rioting. The PD botched the public relations part even though it looks like the officer was actually correct in killing Brown. To be fair the public relations angle is very hard for police departments to correctly manage but Ferguson really bungled it.
I also am taking great pleasure in laughing at the left for trumpeting another innocent youth only for that youth to not be so innocent again. The only issue is it gives the statist another round of ammo in backing cops that potential could curtail innocent peoples rights.
I also am taking great pleasure in laughing at the left for trumpeting another innocent youth only for that youth to not be so innocent again. The only issue is it gives the statist another round of ammo in backing cops that potential could curtail innocent peoples rights.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:57 pm to heartbreakTiger
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I also am taking great pleasure in laughing at the left for trumpeting another innocent youth only for that youth to not be so innocent again.
This for me.
Whole thing is annoying me curious every other person I meet wants me to shed some sort of insight on the situation because I'm black and live in MO
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:01 pm to heartbreakTiger
Other than the PD's comedically bad PR, I've enjoyed this little debacle.
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