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2018 Clemson: Best Ever?
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:32 am
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:32 am
Dabo recently called his 2018 team the best ever. Does he have a strong case for it?
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:32 am to Globetrotter747
not even remotely close but they had a terrific season.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:33 am to Globetrotter747
I think so.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:35 am to WG_Dawg
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not even remotely close
Why not? Once Lawrence became the full time starter they were pretty dominant.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:35 am to WG_Dawg
People were crowning bama as the best ever and Clemson beat them like a drum without their best player.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:36 am to Globetrotter747
They have a legitimate argument. But years from now they’ll lose out on these arguments because of the weak ACC. 1993 and 1999 Florida State rarely get mentioned alongside 2001 Miami and 1995 Nebraska for the same reason.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:49 am to Globetrotter747
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Why not? Once Lawrence became the full time starter they were pretty dominant.
because they didn't play hardly any competition until the final game of the season. 1995 Nebraska will be the GOAT until proven otherwise because they ran absolutely roughshod over everyone including tougher teams.
-CU had a 2 point escape over a 4 loss aTm team
-Throughout the regular season they only played 1 team that finihsed ranked, that aTm team.
-The other teams that were ranked at game time hovered around the 20s but ended up with 4-5 losses and finished unranked
-In the ACCCG they played frickign pitt who finished with 7 losses
-Their first playoff opponent was a mediocre ND team that was such a joke that clemson publicly admitted they spent most all of december prepping for alabama instead
-They then had their terrific win over an outstanding alabama. Nothing negative at all to point out here, one of the best wins for any team of the last 5 years IMO. But I think people are saying they're the "best ever" on the back of their last game
-1995 Nebraska played 4 teams that finished the season ranked, all 4 of which finished ranked in the top 10! That's even with their losses to NU
-They had no 2 point squeakers, they demolished everyone. Their closest game all season was 14 ponits. Their average score against those 4 aformentioned top 10-finishing teams was 49-18.
-3 of those 4 blowout wins were away from home
-They also demolished a highly ranked elite team in the CG, by the tune of 62-24. Mind you that prior to urban meyer many UF fans would claim that 1995 UF was probably the best team they ever fielded, more so than their title winners the following year. To put it in perspective, that 95 UF team also murdered everyone they played includign several highly ranked top 10 teams in a nice easy stroll to the title game, before getting utterly embarrassed.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:52 am to AU4real35
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People were crowning bama as the best ever
because people are reactionary as frick and will proclaim something the best or worst ever minutes after it happens. Bama escaped the SECCG and held on by 11 against OU...and if we're being honest actually moved the ball extremely well on Clemson all night they just never capitalized. Bama only had 40 less yards on the night as clemson, but they had 4 turnovers to clemson's 0 which is obviously gonna turn a ballgame.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:53 am to Globetrotter747
I think Bama would beat them 7/10 times. They went up and down the field on them in the first half and shot themselves in the foot in the red zone. And no slight to Clemson, they were a good team. OU showed everyone that you could score on Bama, but in the natty the Bama offense just wasn't clicking. Sometimes you have days like that.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:55 am to bigDgator
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think Bama would beat them 7/10 times. They went up and down the field on them in the first half and shot themselves in the foot in the red zone. And no slight to Clemson, they were a good team. OU showed everyone that you could score on Bama, but in the natty the Bama offense just wasn't clicking. Sometimes you have days like that.
right, that was probably the most uncharacteristic I've seen bama play in years. Multiple wtf mistakes, stupid turnovers, head scratching playcalls, missed assignments, etc. Not to mention clemson's WRs were making video game catches all night.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:02 am to WG_Dawg
Very damn good team with a lot of NFL talent and great coach
But NOT the best team ever.
But NOT the best team ever.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:59 pm to Globetrotter747
If you're young, I could understand why 2018 Clemson is the best college team you've seen.
But let me tell you, 1995 Nebraska was an incredible sight. I hated the Huskers then.
For Gen X'ers, that Nebraska team was probably the best team we had ever watched. Their offense was unprecedented.
Edit: Typo
But let me tell you, 1995 Nebraska was an incredible sight. I hated the Huskers then.
For Gen X'ers, that Nebraska team was probably the best team we had ever watched. Their offense was unprecedented.
Edit: Typo
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:17 am to Vollsack
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But let me tell you, 1995 Nebraska was an incredible sight. I hated the Huskers then.
They were a great football team, but they were one dimensional and played in the championship game against a young team with a soft front seven. When Miami and FSU’s better teams routinely beat Nebraska in bowl games, they neutralized their option with great defensive fronts like Alabama and Clemson have nowadays. Oklahoma did the same in Switzer’s prime. Florida just didn’t have that and got trampled.
Nebraska wasn’t considered otherworldly until after the Fiesta Bowl because they always beat the shite out of the old Big 8 cupcakes. No one has ever feared going to places like Kansas and Kansas State. I don’t care what their rank.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:17 pm to Globetrotter747
I mean their title win showed just how good that team was.
Their schedule sadly was too easy to compare them yet to the 95 Nebraska, 01 Miami type teams.
Let's look back a few years from now when we have better perspective on the pro careers. Since that schedule never really told us just how great they were(Till they destroyed an incredible Bama team obviously).
Their schedule sadly was too easy to compare them yet to the 95 Nebraska, 01 Miami type teams.
Let's look back a few years from now when we have better perspective on the pro careers. Since that schedule never really told us just how great they were(Till they destroyed an incredible Bama team obviously).
Posted on 4/17/19 at 12:59 pm to Globetrotter747
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They were a great football team, but they were one dimensional
so what? They could be 0 dimensional and it wouldn't matter as it relates to their place in history.
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played in the championship game against a young team with a soft front seven
That team was ranked in the top 5 the entire season, demolished most teams they played in a waltz to the SEC title, and beat the final ranking #3 and #4 teams in the polls by a combined 36 points. If UF had won the title that year would you still downplay them by saying they were young, or say how good they were for winnign it all?
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When Miami and FSU’s better teams routinely beat Nebraska in bowl games, they neutralized their option with great defensive fronts like Alabama and Clemson have nowadays. Oklahoma did the same in Switzer’s prime. Florida just didn’t have that and got trampled.
so you're diminishing NU's accomplishments on the basis of their opponents not being good enough to stop their offense? Good Lord that's a stretch.
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they always beat the shite out of the old Big 8 cupcakes. No one has ever feared going to places like Kansas and Kansas State. I don’t care what their rank.
so you just gloss over actual facts when they're inconvenient? I'll say again NU beat (thoroughly whipped actually) 4 teams that finished the season in the top 10. It truly doens't matter if you don't think those teams were good or not, they clearly were. Nobody "feared" going to tuscaloosa under shula. Or clemson under bowden. Or LSU under hallman. A team is only as "fearsome" as how good they are. Those teams NU were good.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 4:47 pm to WG_Dawg
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Those teams NU were good.
They were great. No question about it. But when Trevor Lawrence became the full-time starter, they became a more complete team than ‘95 Nebraska.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:02 pm to Globetrotter747
Tommie Frazier >>>>>>> Trevor Lawrence, and those who doubt me..... suck cock by choice
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:17 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Tommie Frazier >>>>>>> Trevor Lawrence, and those who doubt me..... suck cock by choice
Trevor Lawrence hasn’t even had a career yet and I already know he’ll be a better pro
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:15 am to I Bleed Garnet
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I already know he’ll be a better pro
of course he will, which means less than zero when discussing the topic at hand. Tebow is one of the best QBs in SEC history and everybody knew he wasn't gonna have a good pro career, that doesn't diminish what he did in college.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:47 am to WG_Dawg
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of course he will, which means less than zero when discussing the topic at hand. Tebow is one of the best QBs in SEC history and everybody knew he wasn't gonna have a good pro career, that doesn't diminish what he did in college.
Agreed
Was just saying Lawrence is going to be very good at the next level
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