re: 2018 Clemson: Best Ever?

Guess I'm being a homer but why is 2013 FSU never in these conversations? The schedule looked a lot tougher in the preseason than it ended up being, but they still plowed through it winning by an average of 52-12, slaughtered a very good Clemson team in Death Valley, had every single starter drafted including 26 players overall who ended up in the NFL, and a Heisman Trophy winning QB. They had 2 close games all year, Boston College where they gave up a lot of points because Pruitt was still trying to figure out what he wanted to do with the defense, and Auburn in the National Championship. Even in that game where they had to come from behind, once Jimbo was told that Dameyene Craig was stealing the signals and Pruitt got the defense settled down they outscored Auburn 24-10 in he second half. Not saying they're the GOAT but that team against any of the other teams mentioned would be a hell of a game

I doubt that 2013 Florida State team would beat any of Saban’s national title teams.

95 Nebraska says...nope.

‘95 Nebraska only played 12 games. A mediocre Texas team upset them the next year in the Big XII championship game. The more times you have to tee it up the greater the chance of a down game and upset.

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A mediocre Texas team upset them the next year in the Big XII championship game

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"1995 nebraska isn't that great because 1996 nebraska lost a game"

Listen to how that sounds

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"1995 nebraska isn't that great because 1996 nebraska lost a game"

Listen to how that sounds

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The point is Nebraska lost a game to a significant underdog in a conference championship game they didn’t have to play in ‘95.

If Nebraska has to tee it up three more times in ‘95 the chances are better that a team (even an inferior team) plays them to the wire or even beats them.

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except for 95 nebraska, who was never seriously threatened and pummeled everyone they played..

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Nebraska (not just in ‘95 but nearly every year in the Devaney / Osborne era) was rarely challenged by any Big 8 team except Oklahoma because the Big 8 was terrible and was even worse after Switzer left.

In the ‘80s and ‘90s OU and Nebraska always struggled to run the ball against Miami and FSU and their tremendous defensive fronts. They were routinely beaten in the Orange Bowl after running through the Big 8 cupcakes. In ‘95, Florida lacked the defensive power to stop Nebraska.

Meanwhile, ‘18 Clemson had one of the greatest defensive fronts in CFB history. They would have been tough as hell for an offense without an NFL arm and no explosive receivers.

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wtf does 94, 96, or 97 nebraska have to do with a topic about 95 nebraska? Good heavens

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All those teams had a lot of the same players. I contend that the ‘95 version wasn’t necessarily much better but had it a little easier. ‘94 Nebraska had to play Miami in the Orange Bowl and ‘96 Nebraska faced a red hot Jake Plummer, an NFL caliber QB, on the road.

Who played on these vaunted ‘95 Kansas and Kansas State teams? Anyone who made an NFL practice squad?

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you mean, one of the best players in the country that year that finished runner up in the heisman? Coudl it be that perhaps he was the difference?

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Scott Frost was the QB in ‘96 and ‘97. He was a capable replacement.

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You might as well say "I don't see why '10 UF was so much different than '09 UF. I mean sure they lost tebow but what else?" Btw 09 UF were title contenders and 10 UF went 8-5. It's almost like...elite players can make a difference in your record. Hmmm

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Florida lost quite a bit from ‘09 to ‘10. Far more than just Tebow and far more than Nebraska lost from ‘95 to ‘96.

I contend that the mid ‘90s Nebraska teams were all outstanding and very comparable in terms of talent. The main difference, in my view, is the ‘95 version stayed healthy, didn’t walk into buzzsaw environment or take on a legitimate NFL talent at QB, and matched up well against Florida in the Fiesta Bowl.

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IN NINETEEN NINETY SIX. Irrelevant to 199FIVE

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The 1996 team played a championship game that the 1995 team did not have to play. If the 1996 team does not play in the Big XII championship, then they would have been in position to play for the national title in the bowl season.

My point is that adding a championship game to the gauntlet is one more opportunity for a great team to play poorly and lose, which is what happened to the 1996 team.

Are you seriously disputing that playing more games makes no difference in a team's ability to maintain dominant form week after week and go undefeated?

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based on what? The 3 teams behind nebraska in the conference standinds that year (ie, a team they would have played in a conference champ) were CU, KSU, and Kansas. And I know you've already claimed those teams weren't good because of the names on their helmet, but all 3 ended up with 10 wins and finishing the season in the top 10. CU lost to NU by 23 in boulder. KSU lost by 24 in nebraska. KU lost by 38 in kansas.

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The '03 Oklahoma team was similarly dominate in the Big XII (video game scores every week) before losing badly in the conference championship game to Kansas State.

Every major college football team has some athletes and the more times you have to tee it up the more likely you are to have an off night or run into a more inspired opponent and get your arse kicked.

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a whole lot of babble that doesn't mention anything about 1995.

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The point is Nebraska lost a string of bowl games (seven in a row, actually) to great defensive teams during the '80s and early '90s when Switzer was at OU and Miami / FSU were at their peak.

Nebraska faced no challenges in the regular season largely because OU was out of the picture post-Switzer and Florida did not have a dominate defense to stifle the running game like the old Miami teams could. '95 Nebraska had it easier than most of Osborne's teams and that helped them get through the season unscathed.

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once again, you make yourself look like a dullard by your main argument being "the opponent wasn't good enough to stop them". No shite UF lacked the defense to stop nebraska, everyone in the country couldnt' stop nebraska. THAT'S WHY THEY WERE SO GOOD. And again, that 95 UF team was a juggernaut themselves that could easily be debated was the best team spurrier ever fielded.

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Who stopped 2018 Clemson, especially when Trevor Lawrence became the full-time starter and they beat 10 straight opponents (including the #1, #3, #16 and #17 teams) by at least 20 points?

Some people were calling the 2018 Alabama team the best of all time, and Clemson crushed them.

Plenty of college teams have won 12 games... but only one has won 15.

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Tommie Frazier was no longer at Nebraska after the 95 season. That alone invalidates your already stupid argument.

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Nebraska faced no challenges in the regular season largely because OU was out of the picture post-Switzer and Florida did not have a dominate defense to stifle the running game like the old Miami teams could. '95 Nebraska had it easier than most of Osborne's teams and that helped them get through the season unscathed.

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Except the Big 8 had 3 other teams finish in the top 10 that season and Nebraska slaughtered them all.