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FAA & United investigating incident w/ Colorado Rockies charter flight
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:46 pm
because they posted a (deleted) video of their hitting coach sitting in the pilot's seat mid flight
Rockies coach posts video in cockpit, prompting FAA inquiry
Rockies coach posts video in cockpit, prompting FAA inquiry
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:47 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Whats the problem? In the 80s when I was like 8 they let me see the cockpit during a flight. Gave me a little pilot wing clip too.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:47 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:48 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:52 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
United Airlines now has 2 new pilot openings! Hopefully some boys at Spirit get the gig.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:54 pm to jcaz
ALPA should be able to get their jobs back after some intense training.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:56 pm to hottub
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ALPA should be able to get their jobs back after some intense training.
I don't even think the union can help them here.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:59 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Back a number of years ago a Russian airline pilot let his kid sit in the captains seat and pretend to fly the plane. The kid somehow managed to disengage the autopilot and put the plane in an unrecoverable dive, killing everybody on board.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:00 pm to jcaz
An ASAP stating “I didn’t know on charter flights we couldn’t do this and since one qualified crewmember was in the seat, we didn’t think we violated any FARs/SOPs.”
Just based on the video, I think the FO will definitely keep his job since he never left his duty position. CA is probably 75% keeping his job, imo.
Just based on the video, I think the FO will definitely keep his job since he never left his duty position. CA is probably 75% keeping his job, imo.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:52 pm to hottub
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Just based on the video, I think the FO will definitely keep his job since he never left his duty position. CA is probably 75% keeping his job, imo.
At least they filed their NASA reports
I always figured any kind of 12-5 aircraft was off limits to pax under 121/135 operations.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:58 pm to jcaz
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I always figured any kind of 12-5 aircraft was off limits to pax under 121/135 operations.
I would agree but unless they have a history of violating cockpit procedures, I think they can keep their jobs. Only proof of “intentional noncompliance” would keep this from being accepted in the ASAP.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:08 pm to Cosmo
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Whats the problem? In the 80s when I was like 8 they let me see the cockpit during a flight. Gave me a little pilot wing clip too.
Seeing the cockpit =\= sitting in the pilots seat midflight.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:13 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:37 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Curious how much the FAA is allowed to get involved since it occurred when they were in a foreign country?
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:53 pm to TigerintheNO
Plane originated from America, by an American company, with American pilots and passengers on board. I imagine they are allowed as much as they want to get involved.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 4:13 pm to Cosmo
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Whats the problem? In the 80s when I was like 8 they let me see the cockpit during a flight. Gave me a little pilot wing clip too.
“And I would have landed it but my dad wanted us to go back to our seats.”
Posted on 4/19/24 at 4:16 pm to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Ralph T is such a simp. Yeah, the Colorado Rockies hitting coach was gonna fly the plane into the WTC.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 5:33 pm to hottub
Uh... letting him sit in the seat is intentional non-compliance.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 6:01 pm to Tigertittie
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Uh... letting him sit in the seat is intentional non-compliance.
See previous post….. crew possibly thought charters were under separate rules than scheduled service flights. Completely plausible.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 6:29 pm to TigerintheNO
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Curious how much the FAA is allowed to get involved since it occurred when they were in a foreign country?
Great question… depends on what airspace this happened.
The CAA could penalize United. If the CAA/Canadian law enforcement wanted to arrest the crew, they could. I don’t think the FAA has any recourse against either of it didn’t happen in FAA airspace.
I could be totally wrong but in Asia, specifically China, the airline accrues violation points which determine the amount of “slots” airline gets in mainland.
I have never heard of the FAA holding crews accountable for actions in foreign countries.
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