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Kamikaze25
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Jul 2015
1198 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
You guys do realize Pinkel left the program in shambles, right? Pinkel only had like 3 guys from the 2015 recruiting class that played meaningful minutes their final year of eligibility.

I’m grateful for Coach Pinkel and everything he did in building a solid foundation for the program, but you are lying to yourself if you think BO took over an ideal situation.

Honestly, we are lucky to have BO. We literally had zero coaches interested in taking over our program.


the808bass
Louisville Fan
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
59755 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
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but you are lying to yourself if you think BO took over an ideal situation.


No one thinks Odom took over an ideal
situation. He took over a much better program than Pinkel did.


MIZ_COU
Missouri Fan
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
11992 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Odom took over a program that was one year out from winning the east and had a good portion of this season's starters on it


What was a shambles was Odoms ability to build a staff


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reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
24594 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Shambles is such an over statement. I'll put it this way. GP took over a Pinto. BO took over a Corvette if Bama is a Ferrari.


wubilli
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
4910 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
BO still took over a losing situation. Not as bad as Pinkel. Probably similar to what Dino Babers took over at Syracuse. Barbers is 18-19 over 3 years.


TigerCruise
Missouri Fan
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
8225 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
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Pinkel only had like 3 guys from the 2015 recruiting class that played meaningful minutes their final year of eligibility.


This is completely false.

2015 players that played this year:

Terry Beckner Jr (Starter)
Terez Hall (Starter)
Jonathan Johnson (Starter)
Emmanuel Hall (Starter)
Drew Lock (Starter)
Corey Fatony (Starter)
Richaud Floyd
Ronnell Perkins (Started OSU game)
Cam Hilton (Starter)


But yea, just 3 guys right,
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MIZ_COU
Missouri Fan
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Member since Oct 2013
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re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Pinkie took over a Pinto, Odom took over a Prius, if Bama is a escalade


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wubilli
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
4910 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
You left off the redshirt seniors
Pendleton
Adams
Blanton


Of course if you have seniors they should be starters. The 2 classes before 2015 were probably more problematic. Harris being the only draft pick from those.


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MIZ_COU
Missouri Fan
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Member since Oct 2013
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re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
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Probably similar to what Dino Babers took over at Syracuse


wubilli
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
4910 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Syracuse was 4-8 the year before Babers was hired.
Mizzou went 5-7 the year before BO was hired.

Syracuse did play an easier schedule over the 3 seasons both were at their job.


MIZ_COU
Missouri Fan
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
11992 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
I one season snapshot does not tell the whole tale, go back a couple more seasons. And then compare the league's they played in


wubilli
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
4910 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Those don’t show the issues within the locker room that BO inherited. And the recruiting classes before 2015 that had significant turnover and Harris and Culkin as the only pros.

Either way it wasn’t a good ready to win situation.


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surgicalvenom
Missouri Fan
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
2574 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Why do people use such exaggerated terms when talking about HCBO.

Of course Odom wasn't handed an "Ideal" situation. New coaches don't take over "Ideal" situations, that's the reason for new coaches.

"No one was interested" Where does this come from? Rhoades found his man and then shut things down once he got news about the Baylor opening. Rhule was going to be his "splash" hire. But instead he went to Baylor and took Rhule with him.

BO was a marginal head coach at first, but that isn't uncommon for first time defensive coaches. Ask Muschamp or Stoops at UK or Mason at Vandy. But he's found his footing, improved recruiting and fields a much better team. I'm happy with the guy as head coach, but I don't have to make it seem like he was in some untenable position coming to Mizzou. He sucked, He improved and if he keeps trending up, he's gonna do a hell of a job.


wubilli
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
4910 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Rhule turned down the Mizzou job. He was offered top half of the SEC money.


surgicalvenom
Missouri Fan
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
2574 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
WRONG!!!Rhule was always the target and he did not turn down the job. Rhoades never officially offered once he was a candidate for Baylor. How do you think Rhule quickly got the Baylor job. Rhoades had already vetted him.


wubilli
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
4910 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
If you follow coaching hires only the coach that takes the job is officially offered. Rhule turned down an unofficial offer from Mizzou for almost double what BO was paid.


TrueLefty
Missouri Fan
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
1551 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
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BO was a marginal head coach at first, but that isn't uncommon for first time defensive coaches. Ask Muschamp or Stoops at UK or Mason at Vandy. But he's found his footing, improved recruiting and fields a much better team. I'm happy with the guy as head coach, but I don't have to make it seem like he was in some untenable position coming to Mizzou. He sucked, He improved and if he keeps trending up, he's gonna do a hell of a job.



Barry Odom was in the Mizzou system for a long time to learn about recruiting, hiring of coaching staffs, evaluate recruits, and learning how to be a head coach in general. I think it was like 11 years?


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surgicalvenom
Missouri Fan
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
2574 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Again WRONG! Rhoades vetted Rhule but never offered. Quit making shite up.


wubilli
Missouri Fan
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
4910 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Not making it up. But if you don’t believe that Rhule walked away from a $5 million/year contract at Mizzou that’s on you.


surgicalvenom
Missouri Fan
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
2574 posts

re: What record/losses gets BO fired?
Say that out loud and see if that makes any sense to you. And if it does, see a therapist right away. You guys should really join the flat earth society. They believe anything without question.


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