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wubilli
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
He still might be a great coach. There aren’t many that storm out of the gates. He also might just be a mediocre. It’s still too early in his career to make a call.


JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
The knight in shining armor



JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Back on track...huge get for Odom and staff.

We could really use some size on the outside.


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MIZ_COU
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
We are four years in and his still teams still play sloppy turnover prone, mistake prone, penalty prone football. He and his staff still get badly outcoached on gameday.

He might still be a good coach (he's not going to be great folks), but only if he is a different coach.


JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Hey Jesus! Nice call on this recruit! It’s awesome we got a 6’4” 4* WR! MIZ!


wubilli
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
In year 4 under Pinkel his teams blew 3 games that they should have won. And that was in his 14th year as a head coach.
You may be right Odom may just be an average coach. I have just seen too many figure it out after this point in their careers.


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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
There is a strong likelihood that Odom returns next year, with another favorable schedule to go up against. So, we will most likely see whether or not Odom can get it done and improve.



wubilli
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
I agree he’s probably back. I just haven’t decided for sure how good of a coach he is.


ZOUtiger
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
There's a lot of things I do like about Barry Odom.

- His love for the School
- He doesn't lose the locker room
- The culture he is creating

To name a few.

If his on-field product can reflect his passion for Mizzou, then he'd be one of the best the program has ever had.

But, I agree, the jury is still out on whether or not he can be a "good" coach.


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JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
This is why I always find the reaction from guys that should know better so puzzling. I know they were around with Pinkel, I know they were screaming for his head too, I know they saw how that worked out.

I know it’s incredibly difficult for some to escape the prisoner of the moment mentality but you’d think more would be willing to take a more wait and see approach


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TrueLefty
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
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There is a strong likelihood that Odom returns next year, with another favorable schedule to go up against. So, we will most likely see whether or not Odom can get it done and improve.


There is no reason he can still get it done this year. Got to go with I called for 10-2. That is still doable. I think what went wrong was he was trying to be too cute with new set up and got carried away. Good thing is it was early and he can fix it and start winning again.


ZOUtiger
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There is no reason he can still get it done this year


That's not the point. The point is that this season is now soiled. Stained with a crushing defeat against an inferior opponent. A defeat which will undoubtedly lead to low attendance and viewership during a year that was tagged as a year for growth.

Even if Odom wins the next 7 games, the damage will already be done as there is only one more home game that will bring fans to the stadium. Having 5 home games after the Wyoming loss is brutal. The Florida game goes up against hunting season... so there it is


TrueLefty
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
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That's not the point. The point is that this season is now soiled. Stained with a crushing defeat against an inferior opponent. A defeat which will undoubtedly lead to low attendance and viewership during a year that was tagged as a year for growth. Even if Odom wins the next 7 games, the damage will already be done as there is only one more home game that will bring fans to the stadium. Having 5 home games after the Wyoming loss is brutal. The Florida game goes up against hunting season... so there it is


The reason I said 10-2 is doable. If he can beat Florida again then that will make up for the Wyoming loss.


wubilli
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
How is it soiled if they still get to the 9 win range that everyone projected they would get to?


ZOUtiger
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Nothing can "make up" for the Wyoming loss because it directly leads to a loss in attendance. That's revenue loss that can't be made up by a win later in the year.

There's already a bunch of Mizzou fans that have checked out, or at least decided not to attend the home games because of the loss to Wyoming. The only thing winning does this year is build momentum for recruiting and next year's success.


ZOUtiger
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
The season can still be considered a success. But the damage is a loss in revenue. Its also a shame that the momentum built with the fair weather fans was all but shut down.

I personally think the season can be a good one if they go out and win. But, there's a 5 home game stretch that is no doubt affected by the loss.


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TrueLefty
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
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Nothing can "make up" for the Wyoming loss because it directly leads to a loss in attendance. That's revenue loss that can't be made up by a win later in the year. There's already a bunch of Mizzou fans that have checked out, or at least decided not to attend the home games because of the loss to Wyoming. The only thing winning does this year is build momentum for recruiting and next year's success.


I understand that. But if BO get the team to 10-2 record that will be a success! It will also be better than last year. Minus the Wyoming loss. But overall it is better. That is why I said 10-2 acceptable not 9-3 with a Wyoming loss.


ZOUtiger
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
I agree, anything more than 8 wins is an improvement over last year. I still think 9-3 would be considered a success. Wyoming would be considered a fluke game (kind of was really), and we'd break losing streaks to SC and UK. Beating SC and UK would go a long way towards where the program "should" be.
This post was edited on 9/5 at 12:52 pm


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the808bass
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
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This is why I always find the reaction from guys that should know better so puzzling. I know they were around with Pinkel, I know they were screaming for his head too, I know they saw how that worked out.


You do this all the time. You pretend anyone saying Odom fricked up is saying he needs to be fired.

I don’t think he needs to be fired. He’s just showing us who he is as a coach. He’ll have a good year or he won’t.

He’s probably earned a below expectations year and he’ll be back next year almost for sure. It just depends on if he’s building up leeway or burning it this year.


JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
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