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wubilli
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
You can look up Morrison’s snap counts if you like.


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JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
I get what 808 is trying to say, and Im not sure hes trying to be as negative as it sounds. College football players show little to-no loyalty(and so do some schools and coaches too). A commitment means very little nowadays.

Actually, this is wholly inaccurate.

The VAST majority of commitments stick. The ones who don’t get the most attention of course, but it’s not true that a commitment means “very little”. It means you are the OVERWHELMING favorite to sign the player. I can’t find the article now, but someone researched this recently and the number was over 90% of commitments sign with the team they originally committed to and it didn’t even remove non qualifiers from the equation so the number, in practice, is actually higher.


the808bass
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Mizzou had 5 decommits for the 2019 class.
We had 22 who committed. So for 2019, our retention was 81%. The average grade of our decommits was 87. That’s higher than the class average.

For 2020, we already have 4 decommits. The average of their grade is an 87. We have 13 commits. Too soon to say what retention will be.

For 2018, we had 4 decommits (5 but Parker signed after recommitting). The average grade was an 87 (higher than the class average). We had 26 commits. So the retention was 86%.

For 2017, we had 6 decommits. We had 25 commits. That’s an 80% conversion rate. The average grade of 83. That’s about the average of the ending class.

So, for Missouri, we’ve performed well below the national average for retaining commits the last few years.

Glad you pointed that out.


wubilli
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
What’s the national average?


the808bass
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Jesus said over 90%. I believed him.


wubilli
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
I don’t believe that number. Seems too high with all the coaches that complain about recommitments.


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JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Who are the four decommits? Wren, Doyle and who?

So, even using your math you laid out you would certainly agree that 80+ percent would make you the HEAVY favorite to sign a committed player correct?

It would make sense that the further down the recruiting pecking order you get that there would be more decommits


Zou brownmajic
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
The big defensive tackle from Mississippi also decommitted.


the808bass
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
80% is certainly above 50%.
Edwards and Kardell (who I’ve never heard of) out of Lees Summit West.


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JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Correct. The number is 3. Not 4.

I guess we can go ahead and count this kid as a decommit since the board has proclaimed it so
This post was edited on 9/4 at 12:17 pm


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mizslu314
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
theres dozens of articles written in the last 2-3 years about the alarming rate of what we're talking about. Im finding few articles on this topic from beyond 3 years ago. Why? Because this is becoming a common trend recently. You just dont see it.


the808bass
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
You’re so fricking dumb that it hurts.


mizslu314
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
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I guess we can go ahead and count this kid as a decommit since the board has proclaimed it so


ya, you're not getting what we're saying. Im happy and optimistic about this new recruit. Others are worried because 4* havent been kind to mizzou recently. But what we all have in common is the fear because of recent trend. Thats being ignorant if you think no one here wants the kid.


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JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
I’m dumb, but you are the one that can’t add up decommits correctly.

You know damn well that Kardell was never a commitment and you are also using non qualifiers (and guys that got dropped) to come up with your numbers.

Not dumb I guess, just purposefully disingenuous


JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
You wouldn’t agree that a 80-90% retention rate would make you the OVERWHELMING favorite to sign a committed player???

How?


the808bass
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
He was listed as a decommit on 247. I went with what they said. I don’t keep a chart or anything.


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JesusQuintana
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Here would be the actual number of decommitments

2020- 3 N/A

2019- 2 92% retention

2018- 2 93% retention

2017- 3 89% retention
This post was edited on 9/4 at 12:39 pm


mizslu314
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
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You wouldn’t agree that a 80-90% retention rate would make you the OVERWHELMING favorite to sign a committed player???


My argument, and it hasn't been stated yet, is what our retention rate for 4*'s is. Thats why im happy but have learned not to get too excited. I havent looked it up, but Im sure that is much close to 50%
This post was edited on 9/4 at 12:29 pm


mizslu314
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
Heres another side to this, our retention rate should be thrown out because a high % of these kids who stick are 2* and 3*. For a lot of those kids, we're the best offer they got, so of course they didnt jump.


the808bass
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re: We just got a commitment from a 4* recruit
If you need a straight line, get two data points.


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