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re: So if we fire Odom

Posted on 9/1/19 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/1/19 at 2:48 pm to
Right, they got lucky. Extremely lucky.

Can you imagine the reaction here if we hired a WR coach??? LOL
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Football is the number 1 revenue sport and Bo has failed to put butts in the seats.


This will be BO’s downfall. He has to win early in the season to get attendance up. So far he’s been really bad at that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/1/19 at 3:14 pm to
That and by the time he turns the season around, he’s fricked up recruiting again.
Posted by JAGsports
Union Star
Member since Dec 2015
948 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:03 pm to
Hire Alex Grinch or Mike Leach.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:07 pm to
He can’t get the defense right. He’s been able to recruit some real players on offense but he can’t get any pass rushers to save his life. LB hasn’t been great either.

The defense has been shite topping out at barely passable his entire tenure.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

We conduct a realistic search for a Group of 5 coach that has a proven track record as a HEAD COACH and offer him a chance to move up to the next level. Not a home run glamour hire, but someone who puts a team on the field that does not look clueless in several phases of the game. Someone who wins when he should, and puts up a good fight regardless. You don't let a lame duck AD make a cheap hire and watch him pat his own back as he runs out the back door.


Can you name some coaches that fit the profile?
Posted by Daddyof4
Country Club, MO
Member since Sep 2014
1126 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:48 pm to
Do you think Dino Babers would come to mizzou? I think he will continue to be a good coach, but will be limited by coaching at Syracuse.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 5:30 pm to
Bottom line is Mizzou has to be willing to back up the Brinks. It doesn't mean you have to be outrageous and pay more than Bama is paying Saban but you have to be willing to make a big commitment and get a proven HC, preferably with some name recognition to get immediate interest. If the budget doesn't support it, go sit with some big donors and run some lists by them and see if you can't get a commitment for $x million donations for x years.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 8:16 pm to
frick. I’d take the next Pinkel at this point.

When Gary lost, it was talent disparity 99% of the time. They played fundamentally sound football with few mental mistakes. And they were ball hawks.

Odom is shite. T/O margin has plummeted. Horribly out of position at the second level 90% of the time.

I dunno who but agree with a youngish proven G5 coach.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 8:23 pm to
Despite playing poorly I bet Odom is still back next season. With Mizzou’s schedule there’s too many games left that he should win.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 8:36 pm to
Yep. We ain't firing anyone. He'll get 6+ wins and he'll be back.
Posted by JAGsports
Union Star
Member since Dec 2015
948 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 8:54 pm to
If attendance keeps to fall. I think that might change things.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Bottom line is Mizzou has to be willing to back up the Brinks. It doesn't mean you have to be outrageous and pay more than Bama is paying Saban but you have to be willing to make a big commitment and get a proven HC, preferably with some name recognition to get immediate interest. If the budget doesn't support it, go sit with some big donors and run some lists by them and see if you can't get a commitment for $x million donations for x years.


Why didn't Missouri do that? There is a reason to that since Missouri is not a place where top coaches would want to stay and coach there a long time and not jump ship after a couple of years of success?
This post was edited on 9/2/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5365 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:18 pm to
Odom should not be fired, he should be forced to get a new DC. Odom will however be fired because of low attendance. Lack of revenue will force a change to energize the fanbase. It isn't fair, but its reality.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Odom should not be fired, he should be forced to get a new DC. Odom will however be fired because of low attendance. Lack of revenue will force a change to energize the fanbase. It isn't fair, but its reality.

Once again who will it be that will fit in with Missouri? Not one that will jump ship after a few years of success. How come Missouri did not go with that approach before landing Odom? Something is wrong here. Can someone explain to me what is going on with hiring of an unknown and untested coach that have never been ahead coach at a college level? This have not gotten top recruits to want to go to Missouri in the first place.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5365 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:00 pm to
Hiring is always a roll of the dice. I wanted Dino Babers, but even I didn't know he would do the job he's doing at Syracuse. Muschamp has the pedigree but could be out this year. Truth is no one has a crystal ball. Who would have guessed KU and Les Mile's a few years ago?

The next hire will be about the fanbase. We are going to end up with Lane Kiffen.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 12:33 am to
For who though. Backing up the brinks truck sounds great in theory but you have to have somebody worthy of that and somebody willing to come. Mizzou is already spending every dime they make (and sometimes more) on the athletic budget. Do we have some donors that might make a commitment to the “right guy”? Possibly, but is that right guy going to come here? Doubtful. We are rolling the dice from now until football stops being a thing. It’s just our lot.

Our fans can be super negative about every coach, but they can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that fact. It’s an insanely difficult job. A great coach can produce passable results and a good one can be swallowed whole.

This is not a defense of Odom. He’s wandering in the darkness. This is only a dose of reality.
Posted by JAGsports
Union Star
Member since Dec 2015
948 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:11 am to
Again Mizzou has been saving money on coaches. They paid for HCCM. The rest they have got on the cheap. The money is there for a HC. I can’t figure out why you keep acting like they can’t afford a HC.
As for The Who here is a list of guys that I would look at: Mike Leach, Alex Grinch, Dino Babers, Seth Littrell, Bryan Harsin, Jason Candle, Dave Doren,
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:20 am to
The only way Mizzou saves mo eye on Odom’s co tract is if he doesn’t win. There are lots of incentives that bring it up to middle of the pack SEC range.

Mike Leach lost game 1 of his 4th season at WSU to Portland State. He finished that season 9-4, that was his first winning season there. Would Mizzou fans be that patient with him?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:57 am to
Im not sure where you think all this money is coming from. The finances are public record. “Saving money” or not, they are already spending every dime (and sometimes more) that they bring in. Again, we probably have some boosters that would chip in for the “right guy” but that guy has to want to come here.

As for your suggestion

Leach- no thanks
Grinch- complete rolll of the dice
Babers- maybe
Littrell- maybe, going to be some competition
Harsin- wouldn’t come here
Candle- maybe
Doren- already has a P5 job making more than we pay
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