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So if we fire Odom
Posted on 9/1/19 at 9:10 am
Posted on 9/1/19 at 9:10 am
Which is fine. Seriously, my give a frick quotient has run dry. Fire him, don’t. Not sure it really matters.
But if we do...then what? What are we going to do after that that is going to make any difference at all? I can’t come up with any realistic scenario beyond just dumb luck.
But if we do...then what? What are we going to do after that that is going to make any difference at all? I can’t come up with any realistic scenario beyond just dumb luck.
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Posted on 9/1/19 at 9:19 am to JesusQuintana
We conduct a realistic search for a Group of 5 coach that has a proven track record as a HEAD COACH and offer him a chance to move up to the next level. Not a home run glamour hire, but someone who puts a team on the field that does not look clueless in several phases of the game. Someone who wins when he should, and puts up a good fight regardless.
You don't let a lame duck AD make a cheap hire and watch him pat his own back as he runs out the back door.
You don't let a lame duck AD make a cheap hire and watch him pat his own back as he runs out the back door.
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 9:31 am
Posted on 9/1/19 at 9:39 am to Drydock
Ok, sounds reasonable of course.
The problems I see. Not sure that coach exists. If he does by some miracle, then he is very likely going to have better opportunities than we can offer.
Throwing all that aside and say we somehow do land this unicorn, we then have the biggest problem of all to face. He has to coach at Mizzou
The problems I see. Not sure that coach exists. If he does by some miracle, then he is very likely going to have better opportunities than we can offer.
Throwing all that aside and say we somehow do land this unicorn, we then have the biggest problem of all to face. He has to coach at Mizzou
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:09 am to JesusQuintana
I get it. You figure we should just keep doing what we do. Got it.
Say, where did that App State coach end up?
Say, where did that App State coach end up?
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:44 am to Drydock
I’m saying it likely doesn’t matter what we do. That’s what I’m saying.
Again, I don’t care. Fire the dude. The season is already fricked regardless of what happens in the next 11 games.
Again, I don’t care. Fire the dude. The season is already fricked regardless of what happens in the next 11 games.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:51 am to JesusQuintana
Just go to Memphis and hire Norvell
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:15 am to JesusQuintana
We do what we should have done when we hired Odom.
We conduct a legitimate search and hire a guy who has enough experience for us to guess he will be successful.
Having said that, Barry has earned some rope. He’s doing about as well record-wise as we could hope for the last two years. He would have to tank in order for us to legitimately consider firing him this year.
We conduct a legitimate search and hire a guy who has enough experience for us to guess he will be successful.
Having said that, Barry has earned some rope. He’s doing about as well record-wise as we could hope for the last two years. He would have to tank in order for us to legitimately consider firing him this year.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:39 am to JesusQuintana
Fire BO and Hire Alex Grinch
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:54 am to the808bass
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We do what we should have done when we hired Odom. We conduct a legitimate search and hire a guy who has enough experience for us to guess he will be successful.
This. What other program in the SEC right now has hired a head coach with zero head coaching experience prior? And aren’t we also forgetting about the fact he was hired by an AD with one foot out the door? Kim Anderson was hired by and AD with one foot out the door too. Odom should have been fired a couple of years ago. He’s benefited off off playing really bad SEC teams
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:56 am to TigerTalker16
Lots of SEC teams have hired a 1st time head coach.
Mississippi State, Mississippi, Vanderbilt, Mizzou, Tennessee, Georgia
Florida did with Muschamp
Auburn hired Mahlzan with only 1 year experience as a HC
Mississippi State, Mississippi, Vanderbilt, Mizzou, Tennessee, Georgia
Florida did with Muschamp
Auburn hired Mahlzan with only 1 year experience as a HC
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:59 am to TigerTalker16
Ole Miss, UT, Kentucky, Vandy, off the top of my head, Clemson hire a WR Coach.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 12:01 pm to wubilli
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Mississippi State, Mississippi, Vanderbilt, Mizzou, Tennessee, Georgia Florida did with Muschamp Auburn hired Mahlzan with only 1 year experience as a HC
And every single one of those had been coordinators at blue bloods.
Well, except one.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 12:07 pm to the808bass
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And every single one of those had been coordinators at blue bloods. Well, except one.
3 of those weren’t at a blue blood. Those are also the 3 schools with the lowest budgets, or at least that’s my guess. Mizzou, Vandy and Mississippi
Posted on 9/1/19 at 12:12 pm to wubilli
Mason was a coordinator at Stanford.
And Ole Miss has plenty of budget to hire a coach. There’s P5 schools that don’t have anything close to their budget of $117M.
I guess what you’re saying is that you’re fine with us modeling our football program after Vandy. That’s one model for sure.
And Ole Miss has plenty of budget to hire a coach. There’s P5 schools that don’t have anything close to their budget of $117M.
I guess what you’re saying is that you’re fine with us modeling our football program after Vandy. That’s one model for sure.
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 9/1/19 at 12:14 pm to wubilli
But wait, how many of those were "True Sons" 
Posted on 9/1/19 at 12:19 pm to the808bass
When did Stanford become a blue blood?
Personally I don’t think any proven coach wanted anything to do with Mizzou in 2015. So Mizzou had to take a chance. So far BO has been ok. Not great and not terrible.
If the team plays the rest of the season like yesterday, BO will be gone.
My top choices from the G5 schools would be Candle or Norvell. Candle would worry me because he’s never been at a P5 school.
Personally I don’t think any proven coach wanted anything to do with Mizzou in 2015. So Mizzou had to take a chance. So far BO has been ok. Not great and not terrible.
If the team plays the rest of the season like yesterday, BO will be gone.
My top choices from the G5 schools would be Candle or Norvell. Candle would worry me because he’s never been at a P5 school.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 1:39 pm to wubilli
That’s the other thing that people just can’t seem to comprehend. There will be competition for coaches. We don’t pay much and we are in the bottom quarter of this league by pretty much any measure.
So yeah, exhaustive search Yada yada but the coach still has to want to come here and they still have to push a 500lb rock uphill to be successful. It’s unlikely to say the least.
Odom is exactly the “type” of hire we are always going to have to make. Successful coordinator or successful lower tier HC. We are not going to make a “proven” hire. Just won’t happen.
So yeah, exhaustive search Yada yada but the coach still has to want to come here and they still have to push a 500lb rock uphill to be successful. It’s unlikely to say the least.
Odom is exactly the “type” of hire we are always going to have to make. Successful coordinator or successful lower tier HC. We are not going to make a “proven” hire. Just won’t happen.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 1:54 pm to JesusQuintana
If that’s your reason why we can’t get a proven HC or top OC/DC then Jim Sterk needs fired now and close down all sports. Mizzou has been saving lots of money in paying BO. Jim’s job is to raise money and the hire the right guy. HCCM got paid and the next football cosxh will get paid.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 2:02 pm to JAGsports
I mean, we can live in fairy tale world where we can go out and hire this proven coach or we can live in reality and know any hire we make is going to be a roll of the dice type.
The AD barely turns a profit as is. A couple years recently they actually lost money.
The AD barely turns a profit as is. A couple years recently they actually lost money.
Posted on 9/1/19 at 2:40 pm to JesusQuintana
Clemson hired a WR coach with no proven HC experience. I get the love for proven HC but it’s not the only way.
Football is the number 1 revenue sport and Bo has failed to put butts in the seats.
Football is the number 1 revenue sport and Bo has failed to put butts in the seats.
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