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Question: Big Ten vs. SEC
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:13 am
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:13 am
Serious question not meant to illict knee jerk responses.
Does the Big Ten have an overall better spectrum of money generating sports than the SEC?
IMO...
Better sports in SEC: Football, baseball.
Better sports in B1G: Basketball, hockey, wrestling, soccer
Anything else I'm be missing on the men's or women's front?
I'll be honest about it, I love SEC football but regarding everyting else I still think Mizzou would be a better fit in the B1G. The basketball atmosphere and competition is eons better and more interesting, MU wrestling would be an outstanding fit, and I think a Missouri hockey team could be an immediate hit with all the home grown St. Louis talent.
If the XII implodes in a couple of years and they want Mizzou and Kansas as a package I'd be all in.
Does the Big Ten have an overall better spectrum of money generating sports than the SEC?
IMO...
Better sports in SEC: Football, baseball.
Better sports in B1G: Basketball, hockey, wrestling, soccer
Anything else I'm be missing on the men's or women's front?
I'll be honest about it, I love SEC football but regarding everyting else I still think Mizzou would be a better fit in the B1G. The basketball atmosphere and competition is eons better and more interesting, MU wrestling would be an outstanding fit, and I think a Missouri hockey team could be an immediate hit with all the home grown St. Louis talent.
If the XII implodes in a couple of years and they want Mizzou and Kansas as a package I'd be all in.
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:55 am to Mizz-SEC
quote:
illict knee jerk responses.
What kinda knee jerks you talking about?
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:23 pm to Mizz-SEC
Wont be Mizzou and Kansas, it will be Mizzou and Colorado. Fox has done a hell of a job with their big 1o network. Flip Mizzou and Colorado, they gain enough media markets to justify grabbing OU and OSU which only bring the small OK City market.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:43 pm to Mizz-SEC
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Better sports in SEC: Football, baseball.
Better sports in B1G: Basketball, hockey, wrestling, soccer
Football makes more than all of those combined.
So overall money it SEC, and not very close. And because of the new TV deal, the SEC is too gain significantly more.
But the other thing is culture, which obviously we fit in with the B10.
Our Basketball games attendance would be much higher than it is now, even with the talent of lack thereof
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:45 pm to mizslu314
I dont see the B12 imploding tbh. I see the AAC doing some re-shifting and the B12 getting some of that, whether its Houston, Memphis, Tulane or someone else.
The B12 has an identity issue. They desperately want to be the premier basketball conference, but the main schools and network want football.
The B12 has an identity issue. They desperately want to be the premier basketball conference, but the main schools and network want football.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:51 pm to mizslu314
Longhorn Network will not be renewed, it is losing money. I could see the Pac 12 be interested in order to bolster their football image. The deal would have to include Texas Tech by Texas law.
If that happens, OU starts looking, that spells doom for the big 12.
If that happens, OU starts looking, that spells doom for the big 12.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:09 pm to surgicalvenom
I was born and raised in Big 10 country, went to Mizzou and stayed a while, went back to Big 10 country...so I'm biased. I'd rather we were there, but I can't see it ever happening.
Would like to see us play Minn, Wisky, Iowa, Nebr.
But, wish in one hand...
Would like to see us play Minn, Wisky, Iowa, Nebr.
But, wish in one hand...
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:28 pm to Mizz-SEC
The best thing Mizzou has done in the history of athletics is joining the SEC. To this day I still can't believe we actually did it.
That being said, I agree with you on the basketball aspect. SEC basketball, even when the league has been good in recent years, is just not intriguing. There's no real history or following outside of a handful of schools. The Big 10 is indeed a much more interesting basketball conference. I'd love for Mizzou to get a soccer team rather than hockey as well. We produce a ton of talent in soccer across the state.
Admittedly, we haven't really meshed with the SEC the way I'd hoped. I thought the transition would be a little smoother than it has been. The new SEZ Complex is nice (albeit a cheap version of what we should have done IMO), but I feel like on the whole, Mizzou hasn't really heeded Pinkel's warning about needing to go "all-in" if we're gonna do the SEC thing. I think that blame falls with both the fanbase and the school. Over the last 5 years or so, we've been completely unremarkable in all aspects.
That being said, I agree with you on the basketball aspect. SEC basketball, even when the league has been good in recent years, is just not intriguing. There's no real history or following outside of a handful of schools. The Big 10 is indeed a much more interesting basketball conference. I'd love for Mizzou to get a soccer team rather than hockey as well. We produce a ton of talent in soccer across the state.
Admittedly, we haven't really meshed with the SEC the way I'd hoped. I thought the transition would be a little smoother than it has been. The new SEZ Complex is nice (albeit a cheap version of what we should have done IMO), but I feel like on the whole, Mizzou hasn't really heeded Pinkel's warning about needing to go "all-in" if we're gonna do the SEC thing. I think that blame falls with both the fanbase and the school. Over the last 5 years or so, we've been completely unremarkable in all aspects.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:30 pm to Literalist
ESPN has spent heavily, and not getting the returns they predicted. I watch the SEC network, and as far as consistent national ads, all I can name is Aflac and Chic-fil-a. Where the Big 10 network has the auto manufacturers, frito lay and several more big advertisers.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:56 pm to the808bass
quote:
What kinda knee jerks you talking about?
More hoping to elict a discussion of the pros and cons vs. "it'll never happen, next topic".
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:45 pm to Mizz-SEC
The SEC delivers more money yearly. The B10 required a buy-in to their network which would have been about $50 million that the SEC gave up freely. Just guessing on the $50 million.
The B10 didn't make an offer. Can't move to a conference who doesn't ask. Mizzou would NEVER leave the SEC.
Basketball might be lesser in the SEC but Mizzou is shooting itself in the foot on that. Kentucky has no problem winning, Florida has won more basketball national championships in the last 20 years than the entire B12 combined plus matched the entire B10 combined.
The B10 didn't make an offer. Can't move to a conference who doesn't ask. Mizzou would NEVER leave the SEC.
Basketball might be lesser in the SEC but Mizzou is shooting itself in the foot on that. Kentucky has no problem winning, Florida has won more basketball national championships in the last 20 years than the entire B12 combined plus matched the entire B10 combined.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:39 pm to ZouTigers
If nothing changes then the SEC will payout more starting in 2023 because of the new "game of the week" contract that CBS backed out of.
But up until then, the Big 10 pays more to its schools. The new ACC network prevents the SEC from expanding in the east, so I'm predicting the Big 10 will expand in the midwest markets (STL, KC, Denver, OKC) and Fox will be really applying pressure on ESPN.
But up until then, the Big 10 pays more to its schools. The new ACC network prevents the SEC from expanding in the east, so I'm predicting the Big 10 will expand in the midwest markets (STL, KC, Denver, OKC) and Fox will be really applying pressure on ESPN.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 5:34 pm to Mizz-SEC
quote:you're doing it wrong
knee jerks
I like the B1G better. Course the schools are full of yankess, unlike the SEC where there are only 3-4 schools good enough to be full of yankees.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:37 pm to MIZ_COU
I'm just glad to be the hell away from tejas. I would have been happy with either. I don't think being in the Big Ten would change a damn thing about the program just as all the extra money hasn't changed anything about the program beyond some fancy gigs for the players.
Nubs and Illini maybe would have been more natural rivalries. Arky would be like everyone claiming we have a storied rivalry with Iowa.
Nubs and Illini maybe would have been more natural rivalries. Arky would be like everyone claiming we have a storied rivalry with Iowa.
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