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re: Odom is Preparing the Escape Goat for Sacrifice

Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:01 pm to
Who was his first choice? Fisch?

What specific contract limitations are you talking about? Or is this just coachspeak?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:05 pm to
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I think we can all agree that something happened in the locker room to precipitate this incredible nosedive. The offense was above average through the Ole Miss game and now they can only manage 1 TD in 3 full games? That’s just too night and day to simply be explained away by “the coach sucks”.


The coach is responsible for managing everything. Even stuff happening off the field. That’s the part of the job that Odom struggles the most with. It will probably be his undoing.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:08 pm to
I don’t remember names. I do remember a tweet saying this from 1 of the big national reporters saying this. It’s probably archived here somewhere.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:09 pm to
Eh. If that came through the Mizzou staff it’s kinda worthless. I’d be more impressed if it came from Fisch. Or whoever.

I can’t imagine what that sort of limiting clause would be. I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I just would be mildly surprised that we’re not using competitive contract language.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:32 pm to
That came out at the time Dooley was hired. Maybe even before.
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:35 pm to
Going out on a limb here but how would the offense feel if the OC was a dead man walking. In short, he's already been fired but that it's only going to be official in December.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:56 pm to
That could be part of it. There’s rumblings of major issues between the coaches.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:02 pm to
Ok, bad play calling could certainly be a culprit.

It would be curious though why he’d go away from what was previously working, or why what was previously working has stopped working. That might be the bigger issue.

The line has not blocked well most times, but if you notice KB holds the ball for an extremely long time. Either he’s too hesitant to throw in right windows or the receivers can’t get separation. I’d be really curious to watch all of these last 4 games from a All 22 angle. They did show that once last game, and he stared down the left side of the field while there was an open receiver on the right side. Maybe that’s a pattern, maybe a one off but I’d be interested in watching it all then forming an opinion
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17989 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:07 pm to
There is no coordinators or assistants that can fix the institutional problems within the program. That is why Odom has to go. The program is embarrassing and it has nothing to do with record or play calling.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17989 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:08 pm to
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How is it that Dooley just starting sucking in these last 4 games?


The offense was bad all year. Defensive scores prevented the casual fans from noticing.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:08 pm to
That’s inaccurate. It did show some signs of struggling, but the offense was in the top 40 SP+ before this slide.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:24 pm to
Rushing YPC over the last 4 games is almost 2 yds less than the first 6.

Passing YPA is 2 yds less over the last 4 as well.

Play calling and execution is at 2015 levels the last 4 games.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 6:07 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:40 pm to
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Funny how quickly things change. Last year everyone was worrying about us losing Dooley and now they want him fired. Everybody hated Walters, but now they want him to stay.


One key issue I am seeing on offense is the quarterback. Trying to change a dual threat quarterback to a pocket passer quarterback is what I am seeing that is not working out for Kelly Bryant and for the OC and BO. The other issue is the receivers can't catch the football thrown to them. I think the need of a new receiver coach?
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 7:43 pm
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:28 pm to
So the idea is to go with the 3rd OC in 5 years?



Go look at Barry's 2017 and 2018 recruiting classes, you'll quickly figure out we haven't done shite on the offensive side of the ball. Once the Pinkel guys filtered out of the system, we are stuck with trash. No TEs, No WRs, No OL, No QBs ready to go.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:24 am to
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Or his receivers suck

They lead the SEC in drops and it ain't close
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the line has completely regressed

On running the ball YEP
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the QB play has been bad for the past 4 weeks.

Here is the answer.....when was the last time KB threw the ball downfield and by downfield I mean 20 yards?
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:37 am to
He had a long completion to Knox against Florida. He under threw it by about 10 yards but it was a downfield throw.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:18 am to
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He under threw it by about 10 yards but it was a downfield throw.

Sorry but So we're classifying a 10 yd throw as downfield?
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:36 am to
He threw it about 40 yards, needed to throw it about 50
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:15 am to
Sorry I misread your post.....my bad

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He threw it about 40 yards, needed to throw it about 50

Damn
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:27 am to
He threw it 44 yds and away from the defender because there was no deep middle help. He throws it as you suggest and the defender, running in stride with Knox, can climb the ladder and play the ball.

Thrown short and inside the defender has to come back and through the Wr to make the play, similar to a back shoulder throw in the boundary.

There were several plays to complain about. That wasn't one of them.

My complaint is catching the defense in a specific look, getting to the line, and running the ball back into the teeth of it instead of pressing the defensive gaps. Brainless play calling at best.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:53 am
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