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re: Mack Rhoades Quote on Basketball
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:16 am to Wtodd
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:16 am to Wtodd
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But I read it on here that KA is a bum overrated HS coach and our players are shite.......SOOOOOOOO how can you build a foundation with that?
Warrensburg Community College... but, you are correct.
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:18 am to SEC. 593
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:26 am to Wtodd
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:36 am to mizzoukills
I'm trying to reach the point of apathy on our basketball program.
I don't think we had to have a year this bad to "build the program back up." And there's a good chance that next year will be as bad or worse, depending upon the defections and recruiting.
But we do want a solid program that represents the values of the University. Plus, we have football.
So I'm going to try to sit back and let Kim drive us off the cliff without comment. But if you Frickers start saying stupid stuff like Puryear is better than J3 or comparing HCKA (PBUH) to Coach K, I will be forced to comment.
I don't think we had to have a year this bad to "build the program back up." And there's a good chance that next year will be as bad or worse, depending upon the defections and recruiting.
But we do want a solid program that represents the values of the University. Plus, we have football.
So I'm going to try to sit back and let Kim drive us off the cliff without comment. But if you Frickers start saying stupid stuff like Puryear is better than J3 or comparing HCKA (PBUH) to Coach K, I will be forced to comment.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:45 am to 5thTiger
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At the end of the day, it is about wins and losses. Sorry for judging it that way.
No need to sorry. Rhoades said the exact same thing actually.
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Q: How do you measure basketball success?
A: Ultimately, it’s wins and losses. That’s how our fans measure it. And that’s how we’ll measure it.
Transcript of interview from KTGR
Before he got into HOW you get to a point of winning, he stated it all comes down to that, winning and losing. I really think that everyone is saying the same thing. Everyone wants to win. Talk about building a foundation is talk about an approach to winning.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:47 am to the808bass
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And there's a good chance that next year will be as bad or worse, depending upon the defections and recruiting.
This is the thing that concerns me. The horseshite season that was 2014-2015 is done. It was bad and embarrassing but it's over. Fine. It happened. Now, what do we have to look forward to. That's the part I'm not seeing. Hopefully that changes.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:19 am to reedus23
I'm a little more optimistic about next year. If Clark, Wright, MGC, & Gant all return.
Anderson has already admitted his mistake in not addressing the offense last offseason.
Should have the guard play to compete and win more games.
Anderson has already admitted his mistake in not addressing the offense last offseason.
Should have the guard play to compete and win more games.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:23 am to reedus23
One horseshite season doesn't bother me at all. Not one bit. For Christ's sake it one season, people!
I believe that Kim Anderson can coach. I don't think his D-II experience was a fluke. Clearly this season was a huge adjustment for him, an eye opener. I guarantee it was far worse for him than any of us.
I also believe he is working hard in the off season to adjust his game plan.
If he can't get it together and start winning he'll be fired after year 2 or 3. Of all people Kim Anderson knows this.
Therefore, I'm totally fine with the "state of the program" because one of two things will happen:
1) Anderson's team will perform poorly next season leading Anderson to be fired in year 2 or 3, therefore opening the job for a potential home run candidate.
or...
2) Anderson's team performs better leading to some tangible success. Mizzou fans will celebrate a true son actually building the foundation of a program. Everyone settles down and the future is bright.
In the meantime I'm fine with whatever occurs in the next year or two. Quite frankly I don't give a shite because:
1) I love football FAR more than basketball. As long as football is successful I'm happy.
and...
2) In a year or two the basketball program will either be successful or we'll be looking for a new coach...which will be exciting.
Until then I'll be a very patient Mizzou fan.
I believe that Kim Anderson can coach. I don't think his D-II experience was a fluke. Clearly this season was a huge adjustment for him, an eye opener. I guarantee it was far worse for him than any of us.
I also believe he is working hard in the off season to adjust his game plan.
If he can't get it together and start winning he'll be fired after year 2 or 3. Of all people Kim Anderson knows this.
Therefore, I'm totally fine with the "state of the program" because one of two things will happen:
1) Anderson's team will perform poorly next season leading Anderson to be fired in year 2 or 3, therefore opening the job for a potential home run candidate.
or...
2) Anderson's team performs better leading to some tangible success. Mizzou fans will celebrate a true son actually building the foundation of a program. Everyone settles down and the future is bright.
In the meantime I'm fine with whatever occurs in the next year or two. Quite frankly I don't give a shite because:
1) I love football FAR more than basketball. As long as football is successful I'm happy.
and...
2) In a year or two the basketball program will either be successful or we'll be looking for a new coach...which will be exciting.
Until then I'll be a very patient Mizzou fan.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:30 am
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:25 am to wubilli
I'm hopeful we can return the core guards. But we have a large problem in the form of the post. Rosburg is almost for sure penciled in as a starter...but beyond him, we have no height. Gant is about 6'8", and short of Roids, I doubt he is going to be big enough to bang down low. Allen is like 6'7", and can be shot over.
We have to get at least one more post player, for the defensive end if nothing else. I'm not so worried about filling all 13 schollies, but we have to have someone who can back up Rosburg.
Really only about 10 players on any given team get substantial minutes. Have to find one more post player to be fine for next year.
We have to get at least one more post player, for the defensive end if nothing else. I'm not so worried about filling all 13 schollies, but we have to have someone who can back up Rosburg.
Really only about 10 players on any given team get substantial minutes. Have to find one more post player to be fine for next year.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:29 am to 5thTiger
Yea I would expect probably 2 new post players to be added to the roster
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:03 am to mizzoukills
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1) Anderson's team will perform poorly next season leading Anderson to be fired in year 2 or 3, therefore opening the job for a potential home run candidate.
or...
2) Anderson's team performs better leading to some tangible success. Mizzou fans will celebrate a true son actually building the foundation of a program. Everyone settles down and the future is bright.
In the meantime I'm fine with whatever occurs in the next year or two. Quite frankly I don't give a shite because:
1) I love football FAR more than basketball. As long as football is successful I'm happy.
and...
2) In a year or two the basketball program will either be successful or we'll be looking for a new coach...which will be exciting.
Until then I'll be a very impatient Mizzou fan.
But for me impatience is my virtue.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:06 am to everytrueson
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But for me impatience is my virtue.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:46 pm to wubilli
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Anderson has already admitted his mistake in not addressing the offense last offseason.
OK. This right here. WTF? How does a head coach NOT realize that he MUST ADDRESS THE OFFENSE?!?!?!?!
Comments like this do not give me any more comfort in his ability to build a program.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:58 pm to semotruman
Because in limited time you can only implement so much. He decided to concentrate on defense first?
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:09 pm to seaniec04
I'm sorry. I just don't buy that. You have 6 months to hand out a playbook and learn a few offensive sets and plays.
Man to man defense isn't that hard of a concept to teach. Heck, if I saw exclusively zone I might be a little more inclined to leave some slack for the offense.
We played M2M which is nothing more than individual execution of fighting through screens, off ball passing lanes, and boxing out. I can teach that in one week.
Man to man defense isn't that hard of a concept to teach. Heck, if I saw exclusively zone I might be a little more inclined to leave some slack for the offense.
We played M2M which is nothing more than individual execution of fighting through screens, off ball passing lanes, and boxing out. I can teach that in one week.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:21 pm to 5thTiger
Yet the defense was still bad.
One thing that I have seen with young college players, not just at Mizzou is the lack or basketball instincts. You D1 players have always been physically and athletically superior to their competition this it takes longer to teach some basic concepts because of that.
One thing that I have seen with young college players, not just at Mizzou is the lack or basketball instincts. You D1 players have always been physically and athletically superior to their competition this it takes longer to teach some basic concepts because of that.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:41 pm to wubilli
When I was back in Rolla, MO 2 months ago, not a single person was talking Mizzou hoops...only about spring practice and football.
How times have changed since growing up in the 80s.
How times have changed since growing up in the 80s.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 4:38 pm to El Segundo Guy
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"Anderson has already admitted his mistake in not addressing the offense last offseason."
When and where did he do this? Just wondering.
"Anderson has already admitted his mistake in not addressing the offense last offseason."
When and where did he do this? Just wondering.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 4:39 pm to reedus23
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Talk about building a foundation is talk about an approach to winning.
Exactly.
Winning obviously must be the denominator.
But the numerator is also very important.
Mack is saying (I know you see and understand this) that a winner with no regard for philosophy is a wild card, it's susceptible to crashing at anytime.
A winner built with sound principles, on solid ground has a much greater chance to sustain itself -- it can weather a storm, a bad year, a hiccup of character and keep moving forward with the principled identity it has established for itself.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 5:43 pm to El Segundo Guy
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When I was back in Rolla, MO 2 months ago, not a single person was talking Mizzou hoops...only about spring practice and football.
How times have changed since growing up in the 80s.
I was just thinking that to myself. Who really cares. Some do but those numbers are dwindling.
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