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re: Just got off the phone with a well connected friend***BOC APPROVES HIRE***

Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:02 am to
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:02 am to
I won't disagree with you.

I'm just saying that the guy who is filling this position right now's worst hire in his tenure wound up being National Coach of the Year.

We need to start approaching shite a little more positively as Mizzou fans.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 2:02 am
Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:02 am to
Maybe it was alot to do with players not listing to him too. Think he wasnt a great coach anyway but players doing what they want has alot to do with it.
Posted by Cody Rambus
Columbia, Mo
Member since Mar 2013
1630 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:08 am to
I would be happy with either too. Haith benefited from chemistry his first two years and didnt really have to do much coaching. Mizzou has to do a better job with recruiting players with better makeup IMO. Need a fresh start and cannot wait! If its Anderson Im gonna be really pissed.
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:09 am to
quote:

We need to start approaching shite a little more positively as Mizzou fans.


Agreed. It's just hard sometimes when I always have to keep my cup close by cause a nut kick is almost always right around the corner.
Posted by Cody Rambus
Columbia, Mo
Member since Mar 2013
1630 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:11 am to
It would be really nice if we could keep Fuller on the staff too. At least JW3 is staying which I am excited for.
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:16 am to
If Fuller stays I think I'd actually be cool with Anderson, if we can't have Howland or Marshall.
Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:25 am to
Think fuller will be a good coach one day and would love for him to stay on our staff. Better chance at keeping Wright and Gant probably.
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:31 am to
Man this might not be a popular opinion, but in my mind those guys either want to be Tigers or they don't. Give me guys who want to be Tigers and will give it all they got for the name on the front of their jersey.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:38 am to
LINK

Sorry buddies
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:43 am to
Lol man Kilgore got in those shocker fans heads.
Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:44 am to
Yeah I get that too man. just dont see pass him over that many times but know hes the right man for the job.

I want Howland the more im talking about it, mans gonna be hungry about coaching now since hes been out and maybe a point to prov.
Posted by Cody Rambus
Columbia, Mo
Member since Mar 2013
1630 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:57 am to
I want Howland, elite coach who has been there before.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 3:02 am to
Howland has the best shot as far as the big names go. I still think it's going to be someone from the "field".
Posted by tobythetiger
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
428 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:06 am to
If Howland's all that, why hasn't someone hired him since he was fired at UCLA?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111589 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:13 am to
That's the $2M question.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17226 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:16 am to
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If Howland's all that, why hasn't someone hired him since he was fired at UCLA?


Well there's a pretty obvious black cloud over him with whatever issues he had there.

It takes a program in a unique situation to go out on a limb for him.

With the move to the SEC, higher expectations with mediocre results, I think we definitely fit the bill of that unique situation.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111589 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:18 am to
I would add that of the 4 or 5 high-profile openings, we probably are in the best position financially combined with the best context.

Cal was probably a non-starter cuz Howland burned all his AAU bridges there. Tenner has money problems and was looking for an up and comer/sacrificial lamb. That leaves Wake and Marquette. Howland was apparently a finalist for the Marquette job. Not sure why Wake didn't take a look.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111589 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:21 am to
I would say that I wouldn't hire Howland without a full recounting of what happened with regards to 1) Shabazz Muhammad's recruiting and 2) the discipline issues surrounding Reaves and a few other Crip wannabes on the team. And then get some independent verification of it and have Howland give you a decently developed remediation plan where appropriate.
Posted by tobythetiger
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
428 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Well there's a pretty obvious black cloud over him with whatever issues he had there. It takes a program in a unique situation to go out on a limb for him. With the move to the SEC, higher expectations with mediocre results, I think we definitely fit the bill of that unique situation.


'Unique situation'? Is that code for desperate?
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17226 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:46 am to
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'Unique situation'? Is that code for desperate?


Probably

Or it could just mean unique.

A program that NEEDS to make a big splash higher with a successful coach. Oddly though those are harder to come by than just saying those words.

Therefore they have to go out on a limb and take a risk on a guy who may have questionable baggage to go along with.

Ala frank haith, but only with very very good basketball.
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