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re: Is it time for Pinkel era to end?

Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:00 pm to
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Whatever. I just think a gamer sucks up whatever ding he got and stays in the tie game with a bowl on the line. Call me old fashioned but I think a real competitor keeps his mouth shut and stays in.


Sure and end up like Mike Webster or scores of other old fashioned guys. Look I know it sucks for us old dudes but the concussion things and any head injury is serious and treated so by the staff. The staff took his helmet away.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:10 pm to
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Sure and end up like Mike Webster or scores of other old fashioned guys. Look I know it sucks for us old dudes but the concussion things and any head injury is serious and treated so by the staff. The staff took his helmet away.


I still haven't heard he for sure had a concussion. All I've heard is he got his bell rung (and still haven't seen a big hit he took to the head). I don't think anyone should play a contact sport at high level and not expect to play some with their bell rung.

Those trainers are like nazi's when it comes to anything head related. I guess at this point I'm not saying JF should have stayed in or came out. I'm just saying this; most guys would have avoided revealing their condition unless it was severe, and I think the one thing we do know is it wasn't severe and possibly not even a full concussion. I stand by my opinion that a competitor like Manziel finishes that game.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17310 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:43 pm to
frick you, my job gives soldiers peace of mind that if they are injured they won't die on the battlefield like in wars past. Anyone who has ever needed us or has a friend who did would rip your chemically imbalanced brain out of your little skull for this shite.

You like to talk a lot about how bad we all are. What have you ever done for anyone, for your family, or your country.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:51 pm to
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frick you, my job gives soldiers peace of mind that if they are injured they won't die on the battlefield like in wars past. Anyone who has ever needed us or has a friend who did would rip your chemically imbalanced brain out of your little skull for this shite.

You like to talk a lot about how bad we all are. What have you ever done for anyone, for your family, or your country.


That's great. But I'll never put someone that lives in Hawaii who's overpaid and get's housing and food allowance in the same realm as a combat soldier, especially a simple 4 year guy that won't get the lifetime benefits of a career guy like yourself. I'm sorry.

And my position that the military as a whole is one big financial scam stands pat as well.

This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17310 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 1:04 pm to
Didn't pick my job, didn't pick my pay scale, didn't pick where my position is based from. Do the best I can with what I have been handed though.

If you haven't realized how completely worthless your opinion is here yet either don't know how to help you. I'm sure this is the only method you have to voice any opinions since no one would listen in your day to day life so I'm sure you'll stay around. If you never posted here again thought how many threads wondering what happened to you would go up? 0
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 1:14 pm to
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If you haven't realized how completely worthless your opinion is here yet either don't know how to help you. I'm sure this is the only method you have to voice any opinions since no one would listen in your day to day life so I'm sure you'll stay around. If you never posted here again thought how many threads wondering what happened to you would go up? 0



I don't see what is ridiculous about the opinion that there should be a recognized difference between people like yourself and those that end up with no financial security, yet laid their life on the line in real combat.

And you even agreed with the idea that the military spending is totally out of control.

So my two main points are really impossible to disagree with if you're being totally honest. My delivery was crude, but the substance of it really can't be questioned.

And I don't care that you didn't pick your job. Your job is what is. It's not an attack on you, its an assessment of reality. Highly paid military members working a job where they can go on message boards while on the clock are not the same as people that lay it on the line repeatedly. Just the way it is.. Like I said, both deserve a thanks, but the general public needs to start recognizing there is a big difference and realize your type doesn't deserve the same type of exuberant appreciation.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 1:27 pm
Posted by MizzouCowboy
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2011
41 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 1:34 pm to
This guy sounds like he's either jealous or his brain has long been fried by chemical dependence. It sickens me that this human excrement is a Mizzou fan. If this board had an ignore feature, I'm sure this idiot would be talking to himself (something I'm sure he's used to doing).
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 1:40 pm to
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This guy sounds like he's either jealous or his brain has long been fried by chemical dependence. It sickens me that this human excrement is a Mizzou fan. If this board had an ignore feature, I'm sure this idiot would be talking to himself (something I'm sure he's used to doing).


What have I said that is untrue?

I'm not denying I'm being rude. But what is inaccurate?

And I'd be envious not jealous, nevermind.. no point in trying to explain that.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 1:42 pm
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:02 pm to
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mograyback

Earlier in the thread, you said you were bipolar. Were you serious about that, or being facetious? If you were serious, it's possible you're cycling right now. I used to be married to someone with bipolar disorder, and I know first hand how debilitating it can be for both the individual and those around them. If you were serious about this, I hope you have a good doctor and are getting the help you need. Medication is your friend, and please take it as directed.

If you were being facetious, you should probably quit now.

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Is it time for Pinkel era to end?

In my humble opinion, not this year. There are too many other schools looking for coaches this year, 4 in our own conference. Our next football coach needs to be a top level hire - not another Pinkel. We need either a top-level assistant at a premier school, or a proven head coach. Either way, they need SEC experience, both in-game coaching and with recruitment. It's not the right year for us to make that hire. The wrong hire could do more harm, and it's too important a move to make this year. Just my opinion, TIFWIW.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5704 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:07 pm to
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In my humble opinion, not this year. There are too many other schools looking for coaches this year, 4 in our own conference. Our next football coach needs to be a top level hire - not another Pinkel. We need either a top-level assistant at a premier school, or a proven head coach. Either way, they need SEC experience, both in-game coaching and with recruitment. It's not the right year for us to make that hire. The wrong hire could do more harm, and it's too important a move to make this year. Just my opinion, TIFWIW


Agree with your assessment, and another year gives CGP a chance to right the ship. If there isn't any change for better next year, then we look for SEC caliber head coach.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 2:15 pm
Posted by HermannMIZ
KC
Member since Jul 2012
443 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:07 pm to
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Pinkel desreves a free pass for one bad year. Georgia had a couple bad years and fans wanted him gone. Now look at them.

I see what you are saying but I disagree. Let's say he does right the ship. What does that get us back to ? 9-3? 10-2? 8-4? That is where I want to be in a down year. I want to be in the hunt for a national title every few years and playing in the sec championship game every damn year or at least 1 every 3. Alden needs to find that guy. Not get the guy that makes us respectable. Screw respectable I want great. I demand it. If Alden can't find that coach his arse needs to go also. Tired of settling for respectable.
This is not directed at any MU ranters. I'm just blowing off steam.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 2:22 pm
Posted by FightTigers
Missourah
Member since Oct 2011
2693 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:25 pm to
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I want to be in the hunt for a national title every few years and playing in the sec championship game every damn year or at least 1 every 3


I hear you and I want this for Mizzou as well, but let's be honest we just aren't there as a program right now. We are fans of Mizzou, which is short for fanatic. It's very hard to be objective of your favorite team, but in all honesty is this Mizzou job really all that attractive to top coaching talent out there?

We need to stay the course with Pinkel at this point and hopefully we can get some SEC caliber asst coaches and recruiters and go from there. That being said this year has been unacceptable and another year like this and I'll be way off the Gary Pinkel bandwagon.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:30 pm to
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semotruman



Would just like to know what has been inaccurate...

Do you think all soldiers should be thanked the same? Even ones that hang out on message boards while on the clock. Raking in a large salary while getting housing/food allowance and living in Hawaii. Does that make me crazy to think they don't deserve the same treatment as someone who's paid far less and actually puts his/her life on the line all the time.

Do you think things like million dollar spending sprees on office furniture just because the unit is under budget makes sense?

I've been rude, I know that. Just waiting for someone to tell me I'm wrong. The only thing crazy about all this is the fact I've kept saying this stuff again and again. But like I said, still waiting for someone to explain why I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 2:32 pm
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
4683 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:32 pm to
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@TJMoe28: @Dave_Matter apparently they didn't see him on the sideline. This was not borderline


another TJ Moe tweet
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@bgreen1989 @Dave_Matter probably because James' head is 10,000X more important than last nights game.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
4683 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:38 pm to
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I see what you are saying but I disagree. Let's say he does right the ship. What does that get us back to ? 9-3? 10-2? 8-4?


we need to get to this point before we start talking championships
Posted by HermannMIZ
KC
Member since Jul 2012
443 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 2:59 pm to
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we need to get to this point before we start talking championships


We had a good 3
Year run that I'm talking about
07 12-2
08. 10-4
09. 8-5
I want to be in the hunt every year. I'm sick of respectable. MU can be a contender it takes the right coach to change the mindset of the whole program. Fans included
Posted by MizzouCowboy
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2011
41 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 3:05 pm to
Your broad brush and vague statements leads me to believe that you're spouting nothing but talking points. To slander someone whose shoes you've never walked in is ridiculous. Are you jealous of those who have more education than you as they are "undeserving" somehow? Or those who have more money than you do because somehow they cheated to get it right? It's never about you is it, it's always about someone else and their fault as opposed to yours.

If you have a point to be made, which I have yet to see, there are better ways to do it than act like a total douche.

As I said, I'm disgusted that someone like you is a fan of my team. Makes me want to bathe this board in Lysol after you've vomited all over it.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9527 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 3:25 pm to
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Miami (FL) Fan

Hurting you a bit too much to sport the ol' tiger paw today too?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 4:40 pm to
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Did you read any of what I said? Or did the anti military alarm go off so you gave the standard generic response?

This man, just like my brother-in-law never went to combat. By most standards they live a life of luxury in a beautiful place, with housing and food paid in addition to unreasonably high salaries. Sure a little tour in the middle east is due, which is spent entirely at a makeshift Holiday Inn, that's hardly combat (yes I know bad things still happen).

My opinion that we should differentiate between this type of 'soldier' and the real ones is far from out there, it's just an uncommon thing to hear. I think its unfair to the hero's here at home that don't ever get recognition, people that fight and claw everyday to support a family. That guy doesn't have people lining up to slobber all over him. Yet this guy or my brother-in-law who have their entire life secure financially and live in places like Hawaii on tax money should get thanked the same as a combat soldier? And if anyone who supports things like million dollar furniture sprees because money was left over in the budget is the one with no idea. People don't like to be challenged and hear taboo or uncommon things.. but when it's broken down it usually makes sense.



Dude, you're unbelievable. You think the only ones deserving are grunts on the front lines every day? Ridiculous. Who takes care of those guys when they get shot up? You think there's anywhere completely safe over there? Life of luxury? You're absurd. Go to Iraq and Afghanistan yourself and say that. Unreasonably high salaries? Hell, I don't think what he's getting is enough for what they have to go through. Damn near giving up having any family life at all. Like it or not, putting their lives at risk so you can spout off your inane thoughts on a computer. You're a dick, bottom line. You don't just attack ideas or concepts, you directly attack another Mizzou brethren, and one that has served our country like it or not. That's pathetic. You should have heeded Kills advice and throttled down. I'm usually pretty laid back but I couldn't just not say anything after the way you wanted to attack someone who serves our country.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 4:43 pm to
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frick you, my job gives soldiers peace of mind that if they are injured they won't die on the battlefield like in wars past. Anyone who has ever needed us or has a friend who did would rip your chemically imbalanced brain out of your little skull for this shite.

You like to talk a lot about how bad we all are. What have you ever done for anyone, for your family, or your country.



Dude, I'll slobber over you for serving our country. THANK YOU!!!

Really, don't feel like you have to respond or defend yourself at all. You don't. I don't think anyone reading here is buying what he is selling. Let it go and know that 99.9% of the people out here respect and thank you for what you do.
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