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Has Anyone Wondered How Haith, an Unsuccessful ACC BBall Coach...

Posted on 10/2/13 at 7:30 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 7:30 pm
...convinced star recruits to play for an average Mizzou program in his first year?

Let's be honest...while the Mizzou program has a decent history, we're not one of the blue bloods. Period.

How does an unsuccessful ACC coach who was on the verge of being fired and at the same time investigated by the NCAA for recruiting violations transfer to an average program and immediately start landing star players?

Doesn't that worry anyone?
This post was edited on 10/2/13 at 7:31 pm
Posted by mizzou--314
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 7:35 pm to
Maybe Henson is helping out the basketball team with some of Oklahoma State's tactics...
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 7:36 pm to
Maybe!
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 7:37 pm to
Have Faith.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 8:20 pm to
We have the best recruiter in Fuller that we have ever had. He is probably one of the top 5 recruiters in the country.

And we pay him pretty well to do it.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 9:25 pm to
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Doesn't that worry anyone?


I'll trade the glory now, for the pain later.

I'd do the same for football.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 10:10 pm to
Yeah, if I'm being 100 percent honest with myself....me too.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 11:11 pm to
Haith was a big up and comer when he got the Miami job..

He is a great talker and surrounds himself with great people. The assistant, Fuller, is a huge part of the recruiting success. The guy is just cool.

And Mizzou basketball is not 'average'. Especially when Haith took over.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 7:41 am to
are you not aware of who Fuller is?
Posted by frodaddy
Omaha
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 7:50 am to
Haith was a top and leading recruiter. Fuller is one of the top rucruiters in the country. And in basketball, once a player sees successful players similar to them it becomes easier to get that player. Transfers for example. Plus we play a fun style and have good players already. Its not as far out as some may think. Besides if they have a top 150, there are only so many bluebloods.

If anything it should show you just what a tard suitcase was when it came to recruiting
Posted by notsince98
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 8:17 am to
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If anything it should show you just what a tard suitcase was when it came to recruiting


That sums it up well. The question should be why did it take getting Haith to bring recruiting to a level it should have been at.
Posted by reedus23
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 8:26 am to
Fuller. Haith is a good recruiter as well, but Fuller is the closer IMO. Also, we're not exactly beating out the blue bloods quite yet with Haith. I could be wrong, but Booker may be our first real battle over a recruit. JWIII I suppose is another though I don't know that we were going against true blue bloods, but definitely some quality teams.

Absolutely agree with the sentiments about Anderson too.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 9:16 am to
what are blue bloods? We are beating out teams like Indiana, Louisville, Syracuse, Michigan State, Florida, UCONN, Arizona, Marquette, Georgetown....

I would count at least 5, maybe 6, blue bloods in there.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 9:53 am to
Sleeping Tiger

quote:

And Mizzou basketball is not 'average'



It sure isn't elite. We're average. At the most we're just a bit above average. We're not blue blood.

This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 9:59 am
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 9:54 am to
notsince98

quote:

are you not aware of who Fuller is?



Yes. I know Fuller.

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notsince98

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what are blue bloods? We are beating out teams like Indiana, Louisville, Syracuse, Michigan State, Florida, UCONN, Arizona, Marquette, Georgetown....



Mizzou is not like these teams...yet. Not even in the same class.

By the way, if we can't win in the tournament, it doesn't matter at all that we recruit better than those teams. At some point, if you're going to brag about our awesome recruiting, our coach and those awesome recruits need to win the big games.
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 10:01 am
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 10:07 am to
quote:

It sure isn't elite. We're average. At the most we're just a bit above average. We're not blue blood.


Mizzou is widely recognized as a top 30 basketball program historically. Top 30 out of 351 programs is well above average. That is the top 9% of college basketball. It isn't elite, but it very good.

And then consider MU's basketball facilities are elite.

And nobody called Mizzou a blue blood, btw.
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 10:08 am
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 10:12 am to
Didn't Haith recruit Kevin Durant when he was at Texas?

He knows what he's doing.
Posted by reedus23
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 10:17 am to
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Indiana, Louisville, Syracuse, Michigan State, Florida, UCONN, Arizona, Marquette, Georgetown....


Those are all excellent programs(other than I'm not such a fan of Marquette). Went back and looked at NWC, Jankovic, Rosberg, JWIII, Jones, Rector and Clark and outside of JWIII I saw Jankovic had a Georgetown offer. I used ESPN so they might not have been accurate, but I didn't see a lot of those other names on their offer lists.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Mizzou is widely recognized as a top 30 basketball program historically. Top 30 out of 351 programs is well above average. That is the top 9% of college basketball. It isn't elite, but it very good.



I don't hold a lot of stock in that. Sure, we have a respectable and fun history with Stewart, but we've never won a championship, we've never been to a Final 4, we were absolutely owned by Kansas...

On the other hand, Mizzou is most definitely a top 10 choke program. I'm not sure there are many schools who choke worse than Mizzou.

Every time Mizzou has a opportunity to win big, we drop the ball. I'm talking about both the basketball and football programs. I mean, we even fricked up in 1960 when we could have won a football title outright. It doesn't matter that Kansas won with an ineligible player. They would've won that game with or without that player. We shite the bed, plain and simple.

Before you cry foul at my honest opinion, just think about it. It's true. You know it.

I love Mizzou as much as any other Mizzou fan. But I also have to be honest about the history of our athletic programs.
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 10:21 am
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 10:23 am to
quote:



It sure isn't elite. We're average. At the most we're just a bit above average. We're not blue blood.



Yeah, we're definitely not trust fund babies.. but we're above average. We're like the guy who is makin 85k and joined the 'new money' country club.
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