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Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:50 pm to Wtodd
Posted on 11/20/22 at 10:50 pm to Wtodd
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The fricking Cook hate by supposedly grown men is unconscionable. I remember the same hate when we had a QB named James Franklin and a lot of people wanted Maty Cocaine Mauk. I will admit I didn't give Franklin the respect he deserved at the time. And before anyone goes full fricking retard, I'm not comparing Cook to Franklin.
I’m probably the biggest Cook critic
I don’t hate Cook he works hard and has played better than his talent level. Mizzou was his only FBS offer and that came after his sophomore year in high school. Odom does not know how to evaluate offensive talent and that is why we ended up with Cook and Bazelak. Cook would have been a 2* if Odom wouldn’t have offered him.
I agree comparing Cook to Franklin is not a realistic comparison. Franklin was a legit P5 QB and Cook is a barley a D1 talent. If Franklin was the QB of this team we would probably be 9-2 or at least 8-3.
Cook is terrible at this level. There are a lot schools at the FCS level he wouldn’t start for.
Horn is a great talent, but he isn’t ready because of baseball. He didn’t play Spring ball and didn’t get to play with the offense until mid to late July.
Against the worst defense we’ve played he showed his arm and his ability to run.
As fans we probably have to high of expectations of players. I am really excited about Burden, Horn, and Tavorus Jones. If we can keep them together over the next few years we should have a really good offense.
I doubt Burden stays
This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 7:24 pm
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 6:56 am to MizzouBS
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I agree comparing Cook to Franklin is not a realistic comparison.
You completely missed the point. My point is people wanting the back-up or in this case the back-up to the back-up to the back-up to play.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 11:29 am to Wtodd
I don't hate Cook. But he's as good as he's going to get.
He can't see downfield, and runs from still clean pockets into the pile. It's time to move on.
He can't see downfield, and runs from still clean pockets into the pile. It's time to move on.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 12:36 pm to Drydock
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But he's as good as he's going to get.
Not sure; you could be right tho
Posted on 11/21/22 at 6:03 pm to Wtodd
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The fricking Cook hate by supposedly grown men is unconscionable. I remember the same hate when we had a QB named James Franklin and a lot of people wanted Maty Cocaine Mauk.
cook is a bad qb, not SEC caliber
Drink failed miserably with this roster, and in year 3, he has to beat arkansas to go 6-6 3-5 in conference.
that is not progress
Posted on 11/21/22 at 9:40 pm to MizzouBS
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I doubt Burden stays
Why? He isn't ready to take off to the NFL or you're talking about him transferring out.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 9:46 pm to SeeeeK
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cook is a bad qb, not SEC caliber
Drink failed miserably with this roster, and in year 3, he has to beat arkansas to go 6-6 3-5 in conference.
that is not progress
Year 4 with 2020 as the COVID-19 not really counted due to lack of Spring ball and regular practice and games. Next year is where I see much improvement. This is what it takes to see the new OC and players that will be on the field not yet getting that due to OL and quarterback not set. Next year with full year in new system with a new OC will decide if it will be a good season or not and the HC future.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 9:53 pm to TrueLefty
If i was burden, i'd be gone weeks ago.
his talents being wasted by a bad qb, and clueless head coach.
6-6 in year 3 is not progress
his talents being wasted by a bad qb, and clueless head coach.
6-6 in year 3 is not progress
Posted on 11/21/22 at 10:00 pm to SeeeeK
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If i was burden, i'd be gone weeks ago.
his talents being wasted by a bad qb, and clueless head coach.
6-6 in year 3 is not progress
That is why the need of fixing the OL that is the missing link to get the offense going. I do not think Horn could do it with a bad OL. That is why I said next year should be much better on offense. If not, then Drinkwitz might not be the HC if the team doesn't win more than 7 games next year.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 11:51 pm to SeeeeK
It would help if he caught the ball more...
Seriously, he has pretty good stats for a freshman. He wouldn't be getting the touches he gets here if he had gone to Georgia or Alabama. With Horn next year, and improving his fundamentals, Burden will have a great year.
Seriously, he has pretty good stats for a freshman. He wouldn't be getting the touches he gets here if he had gone to Georgia or Alabama. With Horn next year, and improving his fundamentals, Burden will have a great year.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:42 am to GalacticaCannon
interesting numbers to think about for next year..
First 7 games
Yds avg- Completion % - TD/ INT - RTG -QBR - Rushing
204 65% 6/6 128 51 23 per
Last 5 games
Yds avg- Completion % - TD/ INT - RTG - QBR - Rushing
215 65% 6/0 145 82 67
Had his last 5 games been the average he would rank:
QBR - #4
completion -8th %
rating - 6th
All for Horn still, but lets pretend his improvement carries into next season...
First 7 games
Yds avg- Completion % - TD/ INT - RTG -QBR - Rushing
204 65% 6/6 128 51 23 per
Last 5 games
Yds avg- Completion % - TD/ INT - RTG - QBR - Rushing
215 65% 6/0 145 82 67
Had his last 5 games been the average he would rank:
QBR - #4
completion -8th %
rating - 6th
All for Horn still, but lets pretend his improvement carries into next season...
Posted on 11/28/22 at 12:48 pm to mizslu314
I just don’t see it.
Cook is never going to be the answer to beating Georgia. Maybe not even the answer to beating Tennessee.
Cook is never going to be the answer to beating Georgia. Maybe not even the answer to beating Tennessee.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:21 pm to the808bass
Barely the answer to beating Vanderbilt.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:09 pm to mizslu314
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Had his last 5 games
Pass D rankings last five games:
SCAR: #29 game manager game. No passing TDS or TOs, one running score. Lovett going off.
UK: #7 Was total shite and had one of the worst fumbles imaginable
UT: 127th/131 teams. We scored 7 in the second half and Lovett and Burden combined for 6 catches and 62 yards. Awful.
New Mex St: who cares. It’s New Mexico State.
Arky: 119th / 131 we scored 9 in the second half. Cook was good, but he missed a lot of wide open passes again.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:23 pm to the808bass
Cook as QB is a masterclass in opportunity cost.
He doesn't project upwards from here, either. Going to be frustrated if I'm watching him next year starting.
He doesn't project upwards from here, either. Going to be frustrated if I'm watching him next year starting.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 3:00 pm to deputyfife
I'm preparing myself now.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 3:59 pm to mizslu314
The staff is certainly sending back channel messages to the press box superfriends that Horn is not in the right mental head space to take over the starting job.
RockM and Matter have both pushed this idea. Supposedly just stuff they think about on their own.
RockM and Matter have both pushed this idea. Supposedly just stuff they think about on their own.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 6:15 pm to the808bass
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I just don’t see it.
Cook is never going to be the answer to beating Georgia. Maybe not even the answer to beating Tennessee.
I remember Gary Pinkel had set his priority to keep from switching quarterbacks back and forth. He set the quarterbacks to take their turn and the next in line will get their shot after the starting quarterback is going to the NFL or graduating. Is this what Drinkwitz trying to do now? Following Gary Pinkel way with quarterbacks?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 6:38 pm to TrueLefty
What are you blabbering about? Pinkel never swapped QBs because he always had a good table of them. He also developed them and got them some measure of game action before they took the reigns fully. They’re nothing alike as coaches.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 6:42 pm to the808bass
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The staff is certainly sending back channel messages to the press box superfriends that Horn is not in the right mental head space to take over the starting job.
RockM and Matter have both pushed this idea. Supposedly just stuff they think about on their own.
Yeah, RockM is pushing the idea that we all should enjoy the inaccurate passing "shite sandwich" that we're going to be served in 2023 ...
Given that I got to watch Horn win a state championship in GA against superior competition in most of his games, I'm lost as to the story being pushed by the coaching staff.
The kid exudes confidence and has been a winner at the highest level in HS. While I love Brady's grit, he can't say the same ...
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 6:52 pm
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