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Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:02 am to muinsandiegp
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:02 am to muinsandiegp
I'll say IF Drew Lock gets his completion percentage up he'll be a 1st round draft pick.
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:14 am to Mizz-SEC
Eason will probably be the top QB prospect in 2019
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:50 am to muinsandiegp
Before you guys get all bent out of shape on when Lock gets picked, what also matters is the other QBs getting drafted in that years draft.
If Lock had just come off a banner year and was drafted this year, hell yeah, he'd be a Top 5.
This was an extremely bad year for QBs. Trubinsky would have been a 3rd rounder in good years.
If Lock had just come off a banner year and was drafted this year, hell yeah, he'd be a Top 5.
This was an extremely bad year for QBs. Trubinsky would have been a 3rd rounder in good years.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:14 am to Mizzou23
Can he take a snap under center, read the D and deliver without tripping over his own two feet...consistently? TBD. He's still has MUCH to prove.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:20 am to Mizzou Mule
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5 QBs listed and no Lock. You can also
Slot Lock behind Browning and Jackson. I'm not saying I don't like Lock, I think he's a hell of a talent. Just saying next year he's not a first round pick. Truly feel like he will come back for his senior season to cement himself as a sure fire first round pick.
5 QBs listed and no Lock. You can also
Slot Lock behind Browning and Jackson. I'm not saying I don't like Lock, I think he's a hell of a talent. Just saying next year he's not a first round pick. Truly feel like he will come back for his senior season to cement himself as a sure fire first round pick.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:55 am to Mizz-SEC
His completion% is part of it. He has to stop forcing the ball at Mason and Moore hoping they make a play over the corner and use his inside receivers being covered by LBs and SSs. In a very small sample size, he spread the ball around during the spring game. In particular he made a couple of chain moving throws to the TEs. That is a skill group poised for a breakout year under Finley's guidance.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:33 pm to navynuke
I do think he has a much better this year. Brown coming back can help. Sticking with my argument that it would take something spectacular to make him a first rounder in the 2018 class though.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:29 pm to Mizzou23
Good news, if Lock ends up going first round, it was because mizzou finished t5 in the country.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:35 pm to mizslu314
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Good news, if Lock ends up going first round, it was because mizzou finished t5 in the country.
Your point solidifies exactly my point. No way in hell does either have a chance of happening.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:43 pm to muinsandiegp
Offense needs to prove it can maintain its firepower against quality teams. And defense obviously needs to be more sound, If those two things happen, being a t25 team isnt extremely unrealistic.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:02 pm to mizslu314
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Offense needs to prove it can maintain its firepower against quality teams. And defense obviously needs to be more sound, If those two things happen, being a t25 team isnt extremely unrealistic.
I can appreciate your optimism but you do realize your argument is the basic without foundation "If, ifs and buts were candy and nuts" argument.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:08 pm to muinsandiegp
The same thing can be said about any school in any sport, ever. Thats not the point, nor why we play this game. Its for fun to think about.
Now if you would like to get down to it. The defense as a whole played better later in the season than the beginning, and we all know why. So to think we cant build off of that is silly.
Offense was inconsistent due to age more then anything. no way could one expect an offense full of fr and so to be that great every week.
I DO expect the offense to be better than last year, and more consistent.
I HOPE the defense is better
Now if you would like to get down to it. The defense as a whole played better later in the season than the beginning, and we all know why. So to think we cant build off of that is silly.
Offense was inconsistent due to age more then anything. no way could one expect an offense full of fr and so to be that great every week.
I DO expect the offense to be better than last year, and more consistent.
I HOPE the defense is better
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:14 pm to muinsandiegp
Spring 2019: Drew Lock drafted early 3rd round.
January 2019: Barry Odom calls a fellow True son asking for a good word concerning a FB coaching job at Pittsburg State.
January 2019: Barry Odom calls a fellow True son asking for a good word concerning a FB coaching job at Pittsburg State.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:21 pm to muinsandiegp
Mahomes was a top 10 pick in this draft, Texas Tech didn't even have a winning record. Lock having a great year, and moving up in the draft doesn't really mean that Mizzou has a great season.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:41 pm to Literalist
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January 2019: Barry Odom calls a fellow True son asking for a good word concerning a FB coaching job at Pittsburg State.
Kind of funny but sadly all too real. My only thoughts are that after this season and another predictable disappointing recruiting class I would hope he would be making that call no later than April of '18.
This is if things go as I objectively believe they will. All non KA sunshine pumpers knew exactly what we had by end of yr 2 and that a clusterf#$k was in process. We cannot afford to get further behind the 8 ball by allowing a 3rd year of last place SEC record and recruiting class.
I am fully aware we reached with a 4yr contract for an unproven HC and that it will not only cost money for the existing coaching staff but even a greater amount of money to hire a real qualified HC to take over.
However, BO & staff are a fixed cost we will pay regardless. So after the proof of what we have "is in the pudding" after year 2 was for KA, should we pay to allow falling further behind the 8 ball? While costly, I truly feel it will be time for us to "cut bait" or "...get off the pot"
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:26 pm to muinsandiegp
I don't understand the KA-BO comparison. KA had been out of the D1 game for over a decade. BO was a rising star in football coaching, and was going to be a D1 HC somewhere last season.
You could argue that he should have coached at a mid major for a couple years to get experience. But about half of the SEC head coaches were just as inexperienced when they got their first HC job in the SEC.
You could argue that he should have coached at a mid major for a couple years to get experience. But about half of the SEC head coaches were just as inexperienced when they got their first HC job in the SEC.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:49 pm to mizslu314
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Good news, if Lock ends up going first round, it was because mizzou finished t5 in the country.
Where did one year starter / 2nd overall draft pick Mitch Trubiski help North Carolina finish last year?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:53 pm to Mizz-SEC
Don't compare this year's and next years draft class.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:14 pm to wubilli
I respecfully disagree Wu.
While out of D1 KA at least was a head coach and led a staff & D2 team which had success.
I am unaware of his rising star status, please let me know what this was based on. You may be right that he "may" have had another D1 opportunity (Memphis?) but please don't get it twisted as if we stole this rising star from another P5 program.
Please let me know what 6 SEC teams hired a HC who had zero HC experience or a longstanding successful track record as a Coordinator for a respected winning program as BO falls short on both.
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KA had been out of the D1 game for over a decade. BO was
While out of D1 KA at least was a head coach and led a staff & D2 team which had success.
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BO was a rising star in football coaching, and was going to be a D1 HC somewhere last season.
I am unaware of his rising star status, please let me know what this was based on. You may be right that he "may" have had another D1 opportunity (Memphis?) but please don't get it twisted as if we stole this rising star from another P5 program.
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But about half of the SEC head coaches were just as inexperienced when they got their first HC job in the SEC.
Please let me know what 6 SEC teams hired a HC who had zero HC experience or a longstanding successful track record as a Coordinator for a respected winning program as BO falls short on both.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:36 pm to muinsandiegp
Malzahn was a coordinator. As was Mason, Smart, Stoops, Mullen. Orgeron was the fricking DL coach. Freeze had one year at Ark St. Muschamp was a disaster at Florida. 6 current SEC coaches had no HC experience when hired, and 3 others were very limited in experience when hired. ZERO current SEC HC were pried from another P5 school.
Point being. It's not at all uncommon to hire a coach with limited experience. It's very difficult for any school to pull an established winner from another school. Even LSU couldn't do it.
ETA: Malzahn did have a 1 yr stop at Ark St between his two stops at Auburn. Point still stands
Point being. It's not at all uncommon to hire a coach with limited experience. It's very difficult for any school to pull an established winner from another school. Even LSU couldn't do it.
ETA: Malzahn did have a 1 yr stop at Ark St between his two stops at Auburn. Point still stands
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 5:38 pm
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