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JesusQuintana
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St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
He completely understands nuance and the current climate. I think the last thing we have to worry about with him is some kind of dumbass move like Gundy just pulled.

At the very least, I don’t expect him to beat himself


MIZ_COU
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I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
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re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
but if we fire Odom, we can't possibly get anybody good, and we are doomed.

doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed
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Wtodd
Missouri Fan
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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dumbass move like Gundy just pulled.

Wearing the OAN shirt or begging forgiveness? I hope you mean he was a dumbass for apologizing bc IMO he was.


TrueLefty
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St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
4180 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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but if we fire Odom, we can't possibly get anybody good, and we are doomed.

doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed


Missouri got lucky! I think the religion helped Missouri. Reason is Missouri is a much better State for Mormons than some of the other SEC States. There are a lot of christians in most States but Mormons are not that big in most States in the SEC. Also Missouri is not a bad situation as Arkansas is in right now.
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JesusQuintana
Missouri Fan
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
27315 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
Dumbass for being tone deaf

Conservative signaling isn’t going to help him win any games.

I think it’s stupid that a T Shirt is a problem, but it is a problem and he should know better


blueprint_one
Missouri Fan
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
507 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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Dumbass for being tone deaf

Conservative signaling isn’t going to help him win any games.

I think it’s stupid that a T Shirt is a problem, but it is a problem and he should know better


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reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25226 posts

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Wearing the OAN shirt or begging forgiveness? I hope you mean he was a dumbass for apologizing bc IMO he was.



Or both. He's full of dumbassery. OAN is about as extreme as it gets and in that sense he is a dumbass. He also has the right to believe whatever he wants to believe, so apologizing for believing it is being a dumbass.


surgicalvenom
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Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
3342 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
I gotta disagree reedus. The man makes his living in the living rooms of black families. It's stupid to take a chance on alienating your core supporters. That's why apologizing makes since. If I make my living selling Klan robes, I don't wear a BLM tshirt in public.


Literalist
Missouri Fan
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
2227 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
Pictures of the robes? Prices?


surgicalvenom
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Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
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re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
2 things I can always count on here. You make comments that make me laugh and lefty makes comments that make me confused.


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Wtodd
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re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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OAN is about as extreme as it gets

Huh?


CelticTiger
Missouri Fan
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
46 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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Wearing the OAN shirt or begging forgiveness? I hope you mean he was a dumbass for apologizing bc IMO he was.



I hate all the litmus test shite that's going on these days. Cancel culture = McCarthyism on steroids.

The fact of the matter was once someone called him out on the shirt he had little recourse. He has to recruit black athletes and if a narrative is started about him being racist or against BLM he's at a serious disadvantage. Note to college coaches: wear only university logo'ed or blank t-shirts in the future.

I felt similar about the situation into which Pinkel was thrust. There were no good alternatives for him.


ZouTigers
Missouri Fan
St Louis
Member since Nov 2012
171 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
Cancel culture is a way for people who have very limited power to exert power. Being against it sounds an awful lot like declaring you don't want people outside the power structure to utilize the tools at their disposal.

The players used the leverage at their disposal which is a very powerful piece of leverage and the coach crumbled. What Gundy wore will be used against him for the rest of his career. Just like there is a reason why St Louis high school football coaches didn't sell Mizzou to their players - they had a reason which went back decades.


CelticTiger
Missouri Fan
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
46 posts

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Cancel culture is a way for people who have very limited power to exert power. Being against it sounds an awful lot like declaring you don't want people outside the power structure to utilize the tools at their disposal.


I guess it depends on what your end game is. If you want small victories over individuals on a one-off basis I agree its an excellent tool. There is no question that if someone has a slight misstatement such as "all lives matter...every single one" because they are not woke enough to realize that it is considered a repudiation of the BLM movement you can most definitely get that person fired if they are in a visible enough position. But really, what have you accomplished by that? Those are "gotcha" moments that have a chilling effect on opening honest dialog. Real change is won by winning hearts and minds. I don't think you can get there by silencing those you seek to influence.

I apologize for taking this down a political path. This is very uncharacteristic of MY social media policy.

Bringing it back to football recruiting...that is a business. You better know your customer and how he thinks and feels if you want to be successful. I'm not saying you have to be a phony; but you need to pack your politics away if they are diametric to your recruit.


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reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25226 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
Surgical...you're probably more in the world of reality than I am. I don't think the guy's political beliefs, no matter how extreme, should impact his ability to coach.

In your example, the KKK and BLM are the antithesis of each other. Coaching football and political views aren't the antithesis of each other.

But I get what you're saying. Openly proclaiming your extreme beliefs and then going into the homes of families who are the target of those beliefs is a hard thing to do.


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reedus23
St. Louis
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re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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Pictures of the robes? Prices?



Your closet is full enough already isn't it? I kid. I kid.


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reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25226 posts

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Huh?



It is and if you're being honest with yourself you'd admit it as well. That's like someone on the left claiming CNN doesn't have a bias.

I remember watching OAN when it first became a channel. No advertisers so no commercials. The day I stopped watching was the day they literally were begging republicans to come on their station and they'd promise to push anything they wanted them to. Not even an attempt to claim they were going to report facts or investigate the validity of what was being pushed. Just please come to us, we'll say anything you want, we just need people to watch before we go off the air.


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MIZZOU_JP
Missouri Fan
Member since Apr 2015
1196 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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some kind of dumbass move like Gundy just pulled.


What's wrong with an OAN shirt?


MIZZOU_JP
Missouri Fan
Member since Apr 2015
1196 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
Actually, I already know the answer to that. God forbid any one has conservative views in 2020. Capitulate to the mob or be destroyed.


Tackle74
Missouri Fan
Rogers, AR
Member since Mar 2012
4236 posts

re: Coach Drink is just legitimately smart
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God forbid any one has conservative views in 2020. Capitulate to the mob or be destroyed.


Conservative is one thing OAN is bat shite crazy.


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