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re: Busch III vs SEZ Project
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:35 pm to OG Supreme
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:35 pm to OG Supreme
I'll see what I can do.
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:45 pm to mizslu314
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really? how? where did they play then?
They did it in phases. They stopped work during the football season.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:55 pm to mizslu314
Wasn't there a delay during excavation that required re-engineering the groundwork? We had a discussion on this when the project was greenlit and there were unknowns about the footings due to soil comp and bedrock.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:07 am to OG Supreme
Missouri Southern State University secured funds in the middle of July for a new score board and was completed by the end of August.
It cost around $1.5 million and it took about 3 weeks to build. It is the 3rd largest in D2 football. This is for a team that has gone 3-30 over the last 3 seasons with a football stadium smaller than a few of the local high schools(7,000 capacity).
This is nothing compared to what the SEZ project is going to be, but MSSU wanted it finished by the first home game. It feels like the university and athletic department at Mizzou doesn’t care about any timeline.
The time the SEZ project is taking is going to hurt with future booster donations. Faurot needs more than just a SEZ upgrade
It is taking way to long.
It in no way compares in the same timeline as Busch III. Even with the soil complications with SEZ project and other problems it in no way compares to the engineering difficulties of Busch III.
It cost around $1.5 million and it took about 3 weeks to build. It is the 3rd largest in D2 football. This is for a team that has gone 3-30 over the last 3 seasons with a football stadium smaller than a few of the local high schools(7,000 capacity).
This is nothing compared to what the SEZ project is going to be, but MSSU wanted it finished by the first home game. It feels like the university and athletic department at Mizzou doesn’t care about any timeline.
The time the SEZ project is taking is going to hurt with future booster donations. Faurot needs more than just a SEZ upgrade
It is taking way to long.
It in no way compares in the same timeline as Busch III. Even with the soil complications with SEZ project and other problems it in no way compares to the engineering difficulties of Busch III.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 1:16 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:13 am to MizzouBS
Not sure what a scoreboard has to do with demolishing an entire section of the stadium.
It will be done well in time for next season. Not sure how that is "too long" or why the completely reasonable amount of time it's taking would turn off future donors. They aren't building a shed here.
It will be done well in time for next season. Not sure how that is "too long" or why the completely reasonable amount of time it's taking would turn off future donors. They aren't building a shed here.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:14 am to MizzouBS
That’s a weird melt.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:10 pm to MizzouBS
Busch III was built on previously developed, flat ground.
The southern elevation of the SEZ was a sloped parking lot that fades into a ravine.
Huge difference in geotechnical conditions that can only be truly known post excavation. Soil core samples are great but often don't tell the entire story, as was the case here.
A halt in excavation, re-engineering, approval, and recommence of work and they are still going to be finished with the project on time. Please explain why that is going to turn off future donations.
The southern elevation of the SEZ was a sloped parking lot that fades into a ravine.
Huge difference in geotechnical conditions that can only be truly known post excavation. Soil core samples are great but often don't tell the entire story, as was the case here.
A halt in excavation, re-engineering, approval, and recommence of work and they are still going to be finished with the project on time. Please explain why that is going to turn off future donations.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:13 pm to JesusQuintana
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They aren't building a shed here.
I want to see a $98 million shed.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:30 pm to JesusQuintana
It’s not just about a scoreboard. It’s about the entire university being behind a sports program. MSSU football is under much more scrutiny than Mizzou after a Asst. Coach was shot and killed outside of a Joplin theater. He was shot by the husband of a campus cop he was having an affair with.
The University didn’t try to distance itself from the football program, but embrace it and stand behind it.
It seems like the University of Missouri has distanced itself from the football program. We can give and believe all the excuses why it is taking longer than expected to finish SEZ project. If the University was behind the project it would be closer to being completed.
Before Busch II was demolished
“As part of the over $1 million contract, the Geotechnology team performed construction materials testing and ICC special inspections of soils. We also oversaw cast-in-place and precast concrete, masonry, waterproofing, fireproofing and structural steel.”
Mizzou waited until SEZ project was started before testing soil and checking for other potential problems.
Maybe it’s not taking to long to finish, but how long have we been talking about this on the board. At least 2 to 3 years, probably closer to 4. Things should have been done to prepare for it to start.
The University didn’t try to distance itself from the football program, but embrace it and stand behind it.
It seems like the University of Missouri has distanced itself from the football program. We can give and believe all the excuses why it is taking longer than expected to finish SEZ project. If the University was behind the project it would be closer to being completed.
Before Busch II was demolished
“As part of the over $1 million contract, the Geotechnology team performed construction materials testing and ICC special inspections of soils. We also oversaw cast-in-place and precast concrete, masonry, waterproofing, fireproofing and structural steel.”
Mizzou waited until SEZ project was started before testing soil and checking for other potential problems.
Maybe it’s not taking to long to finish, but how long have we been talking about this on the board. At least 2 to 3 years, probably closer to 4. Things should have been done to prepare for it to start.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:19 pm to MizzouBS
I just...dude.
The amount of time this project is taking is completely reasonable. There was conversation as to whether they wanted a standalone facility (which Pinkel preferred) and the South EZ reconstruction that Odom wanted. They also had to raise the money. The construction is going fine and will take 1 season to complete.
The amount of time this project is taking is completely reasonable. There was conversation as to whether they wanted a standalone facility (which Pinkel preferred) and the South EZ reconstruction that Odom wanted. They also had to raise the money. The construction is going fine and will take 1 season to complete.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:06 pm to JesusQuintana
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There was conversation as to whether they wanted a standalone facility (which Pinkel preferred) and the South EZ reconstruction that Odom wanted. They also had to raise the money. The construction is going fine and will take 1 season to complete.
No. Pinkel preferred the SEZ project. Mack Rhoades derailed it for a standalone (at half the price) before Odom got Sterk to go back to the original vision.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:02 pm to JesusQuintana
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The amount of time this project is taking is completely reasonable.
I think we have to take into account the Hunger-Strike's impact on this project.
That almost certainly hurt timing and funding.
Nothing was in motion for a good minute while that shook-out.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:36 pm to Mizz-SEC
Yeah, I think you're right.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:00 am to JesusQuintana
It was announced that the SEZ project was approved by the Athletic Department sometime between 16 presidential election and Christmas.
In September 16 Sterk announced they had $55 million secured for the project and the remainder of funds would be through bonds. At that time it was projected to cost $75 million. More money was raised by donors and the bonds were increased after the project changed form $75 million to $98 million. It was projected to take a year and half to two years to finish.
The Mizzou Board of Curators took a year to decide to sign off on the SEZ project even though the money was secured.
Instead of starting to build in the Spring of 17 the board took its time to approve the start date to the Spring if 18.
If they had started the project in the Spring of 17 it would more than likely be done.
In September 16 Sterk announced they had $55 million secured for the project and the remainder of funds would be through bonds. At that time it was projected to cost $75 million. More money was raised by donors and the bonds were increased after the project changed form $75 million to $98 million. It was projected to take a year and half to two years to finish.
The Mizzou Board of Curators took a year to decide to sign off on the SEZ project even though the money was secured.
Instead of starting to build in the Spring of 17 the board took its time to approve the start date to the Spring if 18.
If they had started the project in the Spring of 17 it would more than likely be done.
This post was edited on 9/15/18 at 12:06 am
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