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re: Anyone Think DGB is Overrated?
Posted on 8/30/13 at 9:08 pm to mizzoukills
Posted on 8/30/13 at 9:08 pm to mizzoukills
Meh. Work put me in a fair to serious mood right before the start of the three day weekend.
Cards lose...
Time to pull something from the top shelf of the stash and mellow out.
Cards lose...
Time to pull something from the top shelf of the stash and mellow out.
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Posted on 8/30/13 at 9:13 pm to mizzoukills
No. He'll be good once y'all's OLine gels.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 9:18 pm to DMagic
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He'll be good once y'all's OLine gels.
Yea, I tried to parse last year and there were just too many negative outliers in play to make reasonable judgements about what this team is going into this year.
This year will be a much better barometer and should be the honest gauge for where Mizzou is "at" in terms of competition in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/30/13 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:00 pm to kilo
We're at least starting the year off healthy. So that's a positive. 
I expect improvement this year, and if Pinkel doesn't produce that, I think we'll have someone else in 2014.
I expect improvement this year, and if Pinkel doesn't produce that, I think we'll have someone else in 2014.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:07 pm to semotruman
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I expect improvement this year, and if Pinkel doesn't produce that, I think we'll have someone else in 2014.
Either way it goes it will be positive in my book Semo.
Pinkel adjusts to the SEC or Mizzou adjusts to the SEC sans Pinkel.
Win - win.
You know me, I defended Pinkel last year. He will not get that from me this year.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:13 pm to kilo
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Pinkel adjusts to the SEC or Mizzou adjusts to the SEC sans Pinkel.
Win - win.
Exactly.
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You know me, I defended Pinkel last year. He will not get that from me this year.
Me either.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:32 pm to semotruman
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. Bama is very businesslike in how they do things, and that's not for everybody.
I went back and found the article. That's pretty much exactly what the family said. They were too businesslike and maybe too serious. Something along those lines.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:45 pm to reedus23
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I went back and found the article. That's pretty much exactly what the family said. They were too businesslike and maybe too serious. Something along those lines.
That's what I remembered too. They wanted him to still have a fun college experience, and thought Mizzou would better fit for him from that standpoint. Just different places and approaches.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:07 pm to kilo
Kilo, it was never my intent for my comment to be a cut toward Mizzou or DGB. I would have loved to have him at Alabama but I think the choice of staying home was what he should have done.
My point was that I don't think he fully understood the amount of focus he would need to make a fast start. Part of that might be how much better he was than those he always played against before he got to Mizzou. Part may be what the coaches wanted him to learn before tossing him into the fire. Part may be that MU already head some very good WR's that were further ahead than he could make up in a few months.
I still expect him to be a special player before he is done.
My point was that I don't think he fully understood the amount of focus he would need to make a fast start. Part of that might be how much better he was than those he always played against before he got to Mizzou. Part may be what the coaches wanted him to learn before tossing him into the fire. Part may be that MU already head some very good WR's that were further ahead than he could make up in a few months.
I still expect him to be a special player before he is done.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:18 pm to T Rey WI
Thanks for the response T Rey.
Maybe Im missing something in this response becasue this is where I started down my path...lol
Could you clarify this statement for me;
Maybe Im missing something in this response becasue this is where I started down my path...lol
Could you clarify this statement for me;
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Kills, go back and research the reason given when DGB removed Alabama from his finalist list toward the end of the recruiting cycle. It might give you a clue as to why Cooper had a great true freshman year, why Treadwell had such a great start to his true freshman year and why DGB had the results he had.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:27 pm to kilo
The intensity of what he saw at Alabama (the way Saban runs the show and the expectations) were distasteful to DGB and his mother.
It is my belief that he did not understand how much work and focus it would take for him to make the fast start like was seen last night from the Freshman at Ole Miss. It was not a statement of "oh look at what it takes to play at Alabama" but what it takes to play at this level. He had a year to adjust, now maybe he is ready to explode.
It is my belief that he did not understand how much work and focus it would take for him to make the fast start like was seen last night from the Freshman at Ole Miss. It was not a statement of "oh look at what it takes to play at Alabama" but what it takes to play at this level. He had a year to adjust, now maybe he is ready to explode.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:32 pm to T Rey WI
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It is my belief that he did not understand how much work and focus it would take for him to make the fast start like was seen last night from the Freshman at Ole Miss
I agree with this. He wasn't ready for the level of competition. And that's understandable. Treadwell played HS ball in Chicago. Amari Cooper played HS ball in Miami. Their competition levels were higher than what DGB saw in rural Missouri. That would have been the case no matter where he went.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 11:45 pm to T Rey WI
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The intensity of what he saw at Alabama (the way Saban runs the show and the expectations) were distasteful to DGB and his mother.
Not a knock on either party.
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It is my belief that he did not understand how much work and focus it would take for him to make the fast start like was seen last night from the Freshman at Ole Miss. It was not a statement of "oh look at what it takes to play at Alabama" but what it takes to play at this level. He had a year to adjust, now maybe he is ready to explode.
I'm not sure his stats were a victim of DGB not willing to be what he could but rather a Big 12 O-C(Yost) trying to adjust for the injuries to his O-line and QB at the same time getting hammered by SEC play..
There just wasn't a platform for an 18 year old talent like DGB to break into an offense that had to be dumbed down to accommodate for the injuries to the O-line and QB. There was veteran talent at all the WR positions that had to be relied upon to carry the load.
Things will be much different this year when the z-read isn't the anchor for this offense.(thank god)
Posted on 8/31/13 at 10:13 am to kilo
Kilo,
Please understand that Semo is biased in this debate. She must back up Teemonster, regardless of whether she agrees with him or not.
Please understand that Semo is biased in this debate. She must back up Teemonster, regardless of whether she agrees with him or not.
Posted on 8/31/13 at 10:27 am to mizzoukills
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mizzoukills
Are you kidding?? We disagree on a lot of things! We just respect each others right to be wrong. If we agreed all the time, that would be so boring!
I usually defer on football issues though. After all, he actually does understand what it takes to play at this level, having played LB back in the day. And he knows better than to talk smack to us on our own board.
This post was edited on 8/31/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 8/31/13 at 12:29 pm to kilo
kilo, I think the harsh reality is that Alabama and Saban's approach does require a certain level of devotion and intensity level in the focus. Not to say Alabama players dont' get in trouble too. They obviously do. But I think where DGB's head was at the time can be shown by his arrest. I think he wanted to play good, competitive football, which he gets at Mizzou but he also wanted to have fun and I think Mizzou is a more relaxed atmosphere when it comes to football.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 10:37 pm to mizzoukills
The difference between Treadwell and DGB's first season is coaching.
1) Freeze didn't make Treadwell learn to run block before he played. Treadwell's run blocking was not good.
2) Pinkel could have thrown gimmes to DGB all night in his first season, too. Not sure I saw anything amazing from Treadwell. Vandy's WRs looked amazing. Treadwell....bleh, no amari cooper or even close.
Having said that, until DGB learns to catch with his hands away from his body, he will never hit his potential.
Time to send the Bama troll packing. He added nothing to this thread.
1) Freeze didn't make Treadwell learn to run block before he played. Treadwell's run blocking was not good.
2) Pinkel could have thrown gimmes to DGB all night in his first season, too. Not sure I saw anything amazing from Treadwell. Vandy's WRs looked amazing. Treadwell....bleh, no amari cooper or even close.
Having said that, until DGB learns to catch with his hands away from his body, he will never hit his potential.
Time to send the Bama troll packing. He added nothing to this thread.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:51 am to notsince98
Treadwell made some outstanding catches when I was watching. DGB's best catch wasn't even a catch against Murray State. That one out of bounds in the endzone was ridiculous.
I don't see his post as trolling. In fact, I tend to agree with certain aspects of it. Mizzou was a more "comfortable" place for DGB for numerous reasons as opposed to Alabama. I welcome the input whether I agree with it or not. As long as it's an honest opinion, I don't consider it trolling, even if I do disagree.
I don't see his post as trolling. In fact, I tend to agree with certain aspects of it. Mizzou was a more "comfortable" place for DGB for numerous reasons as opposed to Alabama. I welcome the input whether I agree with it or not. As long as it's an honest opinion, I don't consider it trolling, even if I do disagree.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:26 pm to reedus23
The Bama fans with access to our board are good, level-headed posters, and wouldn't deliberately troll us on our own board. Same with the posters of all fan bases with access here. They recognize that the team boards are for legitimate discussion; anything else belongs on the rant.
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