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re: Anyone Think DGB is Overrated?
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:57 pm to reedus23
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:57 pm to reedus23
I'm taking the wait and see approach. Last year was a disaster in all facets of the game. I think this year is better, especially with a healthy Franklin.
I'm not ready to write this year off until the losing steak comes.
I'm not ready to write this year off until the losing steak comes.
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Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:59 pm to reedus23
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personally I think a coaching staff that didn't make a good enough effort to get him the ball.
I will completely agree with this.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 1:00 pm to Mizzeaux
Oh hell, I ain't writing it off. I think everyone will be improved, including Franklin and DGB. Just how much and what that means as for record remains to be seen.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 1:08 pm to reedus23
Well, please don't misunderstand me. I think they'll be improved over last year.
The real question is has Mizzou improved more than the other teams have improved?
The real question is has Mizzou improved more than the other teams have improved?
Posted on 8/30/13 at 1:48 pm to mizzoukills
Kills, go back and research the reason given when DGB removed Alabama from his finalist list toward the end of the recruiting cycle. It might give you a clue as to why Cooper had a great true freshman year, why Treadwell had such a great start to his true freshman year and why DGB had the results he had.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 2:34 pm to T Rey WI
Ok, I took a quick look and didn't see it. What's the answer?
Posted on 8/30/13 at 2:36 pm to reedus23
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Ok, I took a quick look and didn't see it. What's the answer?
Too far from Springfield and Saban is too structured and runs the program as a business.
That's all I remember from some article I read a while ago.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 3:12 pm to T Rey WI
T Rey WI
Enlighten us, Teemonster....
Enlighten us, Teemonster....
Posted on 8/30/13 at 3:27 pm to Mizzeaux
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too structured and runs the program as a business
The required structure and focus was too intense in his (and his mother's) view.
My guess, in addition to the other things mentioned in this thread...maybe he did not give the effort and focus needed to make a quick start? I think he has the skill and the ability but did not realize til he was in the middle of it just how much focus and effort would be required.
I still think he will turn out to be a great weapon before this season is done.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 6:29 pm to T Rey WI
Sorry man, not buying that Bama spin on DGB. his family saying they don't like the fact Saban can be an arse in how he treats individuals inside the program (well known fact) doesn't magically equal the kid didn't want to put in the work to be successful.
This isn't the first time I have heard this nonsense when a player doesn't choose Bama.
"He didn't want to succeed."
"He didn't want to put in the work"
"Doesnt have the drive to be a Bama player"
"Bama systems are obviously too complex for player"
The stuff is stupid along with the dots you are trying to connect in drawing your conclusions.
This isn't the first time I have heard this nonsense when a player doesn't choose Bama.
"He didn't want to succeed."
"He didn't want to put in the work"
"Doesnt have the drive to be a Bama player"
"Bama systems are obviously too complex for player"
The stuff is stupid along with the dots you are trying to connect in drawing your conclusions.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 6:31 pm to T Rey WI
I think he's going to be pretty good. One season is too small of a sample, especially given the circumstances.
Wait until this season is over and revisit this topic, this may be an entirely different conversation.
Wait until this season is over and revisit this topic, this may be an entirely different conversation.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 7:29 pm to kilo
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Sorry man, not buying that Bama spin on DGB. his family saying they don't like the fact Saban can be an arse in how he treats individuals inside the program (well known fact) doesn't magically equal the kid didn't want to put in the work to be successful.
I don't think it's so much about putting in the work as it is not being able to pick it up as quickly as some. He played high school ball in Missouri, against much smaller kids. The competition level was a tough adjustment, and he needed more time than others to get there. That would have been the case at Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas or anywhere else. It was about him, not the place he chose to go to school. And I personally think it was more about maturity than work ethic.
I don't think TRey was insulting his ability, or saying he wasn't tough enough for Bama. He just has a different personality, and probably wouldn't have fit as well there. He just had a much bigger leap to make, competition-wise, and wasn't as quick to make it.
This post was edited on 8/30/13 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 8/30/13 at 7:39 pm to semotruman
Semo, DGB didn't drop Bama because "Saban's system was hard" et al. They were dropped for many of the same reasons he chose Mizzou over Arkansas. Thats what I was arguing against when Trey posted and insinuated this. I agree that he needed adjustment time and the competition level did him no favors in H.S. but for a Bama fan to try and insinuate that Bama was passed over because DGB couldn't grasp the Saban system or because he didn't want to "work hard" inside the "regimented" Saban structure is nonsense.
Its very clear that the family didnt like how the athletes were treated inside Saban's Alabama program. Not knocking Bama, it is what is and it sees results no question, however, Im not going to listen to the Bama spin after the fact though trying to downplay the student athlete as well as trying to take a subtle shot at Mizzou's program.
Its very clear that the family didnt like how the athletes were treated inside Saban's Alabama program. Not knocking Bama, it is what is and it sees results no question, however, Im not going to listen to the Bama spin after the fact though trying to downplay the student athlete as well as trying to take a subtle shot at Mizzou's program.
This post was edited on 8/30/13 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 8/30/13 at 8:35 pm to semotruman
Semonster...Temonster can handle himself. He's a big boy.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 8:43 pm to mizzoukills
Oh I know. I just don't think it was meant as a shot at Mizzou. I think DGB chose Mizzou because of the family atmosphere, and they felt he would have good supervision close to home. Bama is very businesslike in how they do things, and that's not for everybody.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 8:50 pm to semotruman
In hindsight, his stock probably would be higher right now if he chose Bama.
Posted on 8/30/13 at 8:57 pm to semotruman
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Oh I know. I just don't think it was meant as a shot at Mizzou. I think DGB chose Mizzou because of the family atmosphere, and they felt he would have good supervision close to home. Bama is very businesslike in how they do things, and that's not for everybody.
Fair enough.
Im not sure I buy that though. Why on earth would he bring that stuff up when talking about DGB's performance and whether he is "overrated". The whole team stunk last year outside a few individual's. He DIDN'T choose Alabama because they didn't like the way the athletes were treated inside the program. Not because he didn't want to focus and work hard. Thats the only thing I'm responding to and that a directly from Trey's post.
Implying that is a passive/aggressive jab, which is fine but why not call him out on that?
Posted on 8/30/13 at 8:58 pm to mizzoukills
Maybe. But I'm glad he didn't!
Posted on 8/30/13 at 9:06 pm to mizzoukills
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In hindsight, his stock probably would be higher right now if he chose Bama.
No question about that.
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