Fire John Cohen train anyone?

I said this after Tennessee that it needed to be done.

Because we currently don't have an AD I trust to make a hire when Football and Baseball have been screwed up.

But Cohen is a good puppet for the money guys. That's why he was hired in the first place.

We're in deep trouble and looking at LT days if we can't get an actual AD soon.

I bet when it comes out while Moorhead was extended i bet his buyout was lowered after next year. I figured that would be a move we made. Give him a chance to prove it where we wont pay the lower buyout or see you later.

2 very different situations.

6-6
5-7
4-8

That will get you fired.

8-5
6-6 (in a very fricked up weird year) gains you time.

Surely you guys are not the same mind as the laughing stock of MSU message boards. Don't be them.....

You know, actual situations do have an impact. Having huge amounts of your defense graduate and only return that few starters and then the suspended 10.

Literally no other college in the USA had that issue in football.

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Because no other college in the US was dumb enough to promote somebody like Cohen to the AD position, and no other college had a head coach as incompetent as Moorhead.

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The AD nor Moorhead had any responsibility to those problems. Moorhead was not at MSU to recruit Montez, Simmons, Abrams, etc etc. That was Mullen.

The Suspended players worked outside the system and are 100% to blame. Nobody told them to do that. That was a choice they made to cheat... and they got caught.

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Moorhead should have been fired for being too stupid to know what was going on with the tutor, or fired for being complicit.

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LOL! Ok........

I understand why a coach is given more than just two yrs. to prove himself, unless of course, there was some truly huge reason not to extend. Do I like JM? Not really. I feel that he has been inconsistent in his QB's. One plays because he has to as Stevens was hurt a lot, and once because one had a better week at practice. Sorry, but unless he pulls a surprise season in 2020, better than 6-6, he needs to move on. And win in the SEC, not just the smaller school teams we build the left side on. What opposing team does not know that when we are down to the 35-40 yard line that we are not going to throw long?

While I admit that national polls early on can be a guess, we were considered in the early polls to have a decent team to produce a decent record. Didn't happen. I just don't have any long term confidence that he can produce to the level of Mullen, so from my point of view, one more and out is the most likely forecast.

I’m still pissed Stricklin left for UF. Being a MSU grad I thought he would never leave unless fired, and was the best AD we ever had.

I never liked the Cohen move tbh. Should have left him as baseball coach

Men's Basketball, Women's Basketball, and Softball were all coaches he didn't hire.

Softball just promoted from within for this next season so I guess that's technically a new hire for him?

Point being both of the sports he directly impacted took a turn for the negative. He got lucky that Baseball recovered like that, because that could've been ugly. Football just won't work as well.

Going back to my Henderson wasn't retained thread, it's amazing to me that Cohen was willing to part ways with Henderson after a CWS Bid but was unable to do so with Moorhead coaching an unprepared team all season.

For his sake, he better hope the team looks more prepared than any team in CFB for the bowl game. Because we looked absolutely pathetic in that respect in the Outback Bowl. Which was a lack of control of not handling the environment of Tampa. Send us to Detroit, no one will party in that town.

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Softball just promoted from within for this next season so I guess that's technically a new hire for him?

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And from what I hear from my OU connections, it should be a good one.


At the time I thought the Cohen hire was bad b/c he was a hothead a-hole as a coach. But I don't think it's that bad. Or I should at least wait until after baseball this year to determine.

Kiffin is a splash hire that will have little substance to it. Lots of glitz and he has had moderate success during his very limited tenures at each school he that he has been a HC at.

Wonder what the Vegas odds are that he will last three years or longer at Oxford Junior College?

So half of this thread is okay with where Joe Moorhead has this team this season? Did any one watch him? Our team was lazy as hell and unprepared week in and week out. Our offense is stale as a 2 month old two liter and that is with two of HIS quarter backs. I do not like Joe Moorhead and you can say we extended him for recruiting all you want but it was stupid to extend him after that Ole Miss game. Any real fan knows we would have lost in overtime anyways.