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re: Why I don't like the Mullen hire.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:12 am to TJGator1215
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:12 am to TJGator1215
You understand that before he arrived, Mississippi State had bowled 10 times in 20 years, 8 of those times are his?
Mississippi State has 3 teams that won championships in the same division, plus its rival that's historically better plus Texas fricking A&M, WHO IS IN TEXAS.
It's a goddamn miracle that he's won more than six games every year and he's had the same amount of losing records as we have when we're recruiting Florida. (In the same 9 year span.)
No one would have done more at MSU, and many would have done less.
Mississippi State has 3 teams that won championships in the same division, plus its rival that's historically better plus Texas fricking A&M, WHO IS IN TEXAS.
It's a goddamn miracle that he's won more than six games every year and he's had the same amount of losing records as we have when we're recruiting Florida. (In the same 9 year span.)
No one would have done more at MSU, and many would have done less.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 12:34 pm
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 12:49 pm to TJGator1215
TJ:
You were right about McElwain...
but how can you not see Mullen as better than McElwain. He accomplished more with a shittier program in a much harder division. Add in Florida recruits and he could be scary good. At worst he's going to make the Outback/Citrus bowl every year, which I am prepared for and expect, but there's still a shitload more upside than McElwain or Muschamp ever had.
You're trying to call it now so you can say you were right again. This time, I have to call you a fricking idiot for thinking Mullen is equal or less than Jim Sharkfricker.
You were right about McElwain...
but how can you not see Mullen as better than McElwain. He accomplished more with a shittier program in a much harder division. Add in Florida recruits and he could be scary good. At worst he's going to make the Outback/Citrus bowl every year, which I am prepared for and expect, but there's still a shitload more upside than McElwain or Muschamp ever had.
You're trying to call it now so you can say you were right again. This time, I have to call you a fricking idiot for thinking Mullen is equal or less than Jim Sharkfricker.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:50 pm to TJGator1215
quote:
Why I don't like the Mullen hire.
you like taggart who has never beaten anyone he couldn't out recruit. taggart is all smoke and mirrors and i hope fsu hires him.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 3:20 pm to SailorGator
This. Taggart and Mullen both built bad programs. Difference is Mullen built one in the best conference, verse the toughest competition. He has also sustained a high level at a school that is insanely hard to recruit at. Ole Miss had to cheat to compete, majorly. Miss State did it the right way.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:00 pm to Gatorbait2008
Whether or not they were a dumpster fire when he took over is irrelevant.
5-7
9-4
7-6
8-5
7-6
10-3
6-7
8-4
Great coaches don't go 2-33 vs the final AP. Mississippi ST being a no man's land didn't help but Mullen didn't show up at all vs good teams. Compare that to Bobby Perino at Arkansas:
5-7
8-5
10-3
11-2
10-12 vs the top 25.
5-7
9-4
7-6
8-5
7-6
10-3
6-7
8-4
Great coaches don't go 2-33 vs the final AP. Mississippi ST being a no man's land didn't help but Mullen didn't show up at all vs good teams. Compare that to Bobby Perino at Arkansas:
5-7
8-5
10-3
11-2
10-12 vs the top 25.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:02 pm to Gatorbait2008
Mississippi St got busted trying to pay cam Newton. Mullen made his career off of beating bad teams. Great coaches don't drop games to South Alabama in year 8.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:06 pm to TJGator1215
Hey, Petrino at Louisville hasn't had a 10 win season in the last four years. Mullen has.
In fact this year, Petrino and Mullen are tied -- one being at MSU (Dumpster fire of the West) the other at Louisville, who had two ten win seasons under Strong.
I daresay playing in the SEC West is more difficult than the ACC, especially this year?
In fact this year, Petrino and Mullen are tied -- one being at MSU (Dumpster fire of the West) the other at Louisville, who had two ten win seasons under Strong.
I daresay playing in the SEC West is more difficult than the ACC, especially this year?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:07 pm to TJGator1215
you've got an argument on petrino. could be in the saban/meyer class of coaches had he not screwed himself over and stayed at arky.
taggart isn't petrino.
taggart isn't petrino.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:20 pm to SailorGator
Tennessee is going after Gundy. frick me
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:24 pm to SailorGator
But it's not a good argument -- Dan Mullen has a ten win season in the last four years, Petrino does not.
Mullen has the same record this year as Petrino --
Mullen lost to Auburn, Georgia and Alabama -- arguably the three best teams in the country and then to Ole Miss because their quarterback couldn't keep his foot going in the same direction.
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Ole Miss. Those are acceptable losses.
(#1, #2, #3, #6 when they lost their quarterback)
vs. Petrino
Clemson, Boston College, NC State and Wake Forest.
(#1, #3, #4, #6)
SEC Record for Mullen's losses: 24 - 8 (5 from Ole Miss)
ACC Record for Petrino's losses: 21 - 11
Without Ole Miss, Dan Mullen's losses are 21 - 3.
Mullen has the same record this year as Petrino --
Mullen lost to Auburn, Georgia and Alabama -- arguably the three best teams in the country and then to Ole Miss because their quarterback couldn't keep his foot going in the same direction.
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Ole Miss. Those are acceptable losses.
(#1, #2, #3, #6 when they lost their quarterback)
vs. Petrino
Clemson, Boston College, NC State and Wake Forest.
(#1, #3, #4, #6)
SEC Record for Mullen's losses: 24 - 8 (5 from Ole Miss)
ACC Record for Petrino's losses: 21 - 11
Without Ole Miss, Dan Mullen's losses are 21 - 3.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:28 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He lost to South Alabama. In similar places Perino balled out while Mullen didn't. Let's just hope it was MSU and not him. Otherwise we're getting a new HC in 3-4 years. The problem also being he needs a big Athletic QB. Those don't grow on trees.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:29 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
not saying petrino is definitely better than mullen. he hasn't been over the last few years. i'm just going back to petrino's time at arky more than anything.
the original argument was taggart, which is laughable. at least petrino makes a case.
the original argument was taggart, which is laughable. at least petrino makes a case.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:30 pm to TJGator1215
i actually wanted gundy over mullen. was my second choice after kelly. sucks if tenn gets him.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:33 pm to SailorGator
So we got turned down by
Kelly
Frost
Gundy
SMH
Kelly
Frost
Gundy
SMH
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:37 pm to TJGator1215
Kelly - Wanted the UCLA job the whole time, Used us to make UCLA move.
Frost - Is going back home to his alma
Gundy - Id rather Mullen over Gundy
Frost - Is going back home to his alma
Gundy - Id rather Mullen over Gundy
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:48 pm to dbuchanon
In what universe is Mullen better than gundy?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:10 pm to TJGator1215
quote:
In what universe is Mullen better than gundy?
I think you got that backwards. Plus id rather have a Power Spread thats balanced instead of pass first. Youre one rainy / windy day from some terrible football.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:19 pm to TJGator1215
I don’t think we ever offered the job to Gundy . It would be funny if we did and Tennessee hired him. We would both have coaches that turned the other program down.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:22 pm to TJGator1215
We called you out in trying to say Mullen is no better than Muschamp/McElwain, so now you bring up other coaches...
Nice. Why don't you defend your first terrible statement?
Nice. Why don't you defend your first terrible statement?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:07 pm to dbuchanon
Mullen at UF just makes sense. It was a mistake not getting him 7 years ago, just as it was a mistake to not hire him over McElwain. He gets UF, knows what it takes to win a championship here and maybe most importantly he wants to be in Gainesville.
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