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re: Just curious who actually wants Mullen gone? Step up pls
Posted on 3/19/21 at 5:58 am to Gatorbait2008
Posted on 3/19/21 at 5:58 am to Gatorbait2008
I just would love to win the sec first and foremost. Which prob sends us to playoffs. I dont see us anywhere near being a yearly contender.
Jmo but it's fun scoring 40 ppg again instead of the 20 we were at with Mac. I'll say this Ant Richardson could be a heisman jmo. I think we get a glimpse of what it woulda been like if Cam chose Miss st. Maybe guys like Dexter, Lee, Watson, Thomas, Wingo, Princely, Boone, Williams Marshall Collier McMillon
The rest from class before D is getting loaded up. I guarantee Mullen fires Coach G if he sucks again. Mullen knows he brought in talented players if their not playing or being coached up right he has to go. Jmo Shelton makes a big difference on DL
Dexter Lee I'm hearing great things about Watson once the weight get omg him Dexter to each other lol
Jmo but it's fun scoring 40 ppg again instead of the 20 we were at with Mac. I'll say this Ant Richardson could be a heisman jmo. I think we get a glimpse of what it woulda been like if Cam chose Miss st. Maybe guys like Dexter, Lee, Watson, Thomas, Wingo, Princely, Boone, Williams Marshall Collier McMillon
The rest from class before D is getting loaded up. I guarantee Mullen fires Coach G if he sucks again. Mullen knows he brought in talented players if their not playing or being coached up right he has to go. Jmo Shelton makes a big difference on DL
Dexter Lee I'm hearing great things about Watson once the weight get omg him Dexter to each other lol
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Posted on 3/19/21 at 3:48 pm to boXerrumble
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Matt Campbell is not out-recruiting Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Ed O, or Jimbo Fisher.
Technically speaking, neither is Mullen. Mullen is also 2-7 vs Kirby, O, and Fisher. His record vs Saban isn’t worth mentioning.
I already said Campbell isn’t the answer to our prayers, he’s just a very good coach, better than Mullen in my opinion. Averaging 8-4 at Iowa State is very very impressive. Especially given the fact that his entire roster is basically 2 stars.
Posted on 3/22/21 at 6:51 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
This is very true. There is zero chance Mullen did not get Fields over Smart..it made zero sense outside of paying a lot for him. It's very obvious Georgia is paying for players...we need to figure it out as well. I know 100 percent that Saban pays because I've seen it first hand when I lived in Tampa. Literally had a players mom live three doors down and she got a new escalade the day he committed to Bama.
Posted on 3/22/21 at 7:41 pm to Gatorbait2008
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This is very true. There is zero chance Mullen did not get Fields over Smart..it made zero sense outside of paying a lot for him. It's very obvious Georgia is paying for players...we need to figure it out as well. I know 100 percent that Saban pays because I've seen it first hand when I lived in Tampa. Literally had a players mom live three doors down and she got a new escalade the day he committed to Bama.
Exactly.
I know we probably pay, too, but I don't feel like we bid or just get into the wars. There are tons of examples where it just makes zero sense but kids decide to go to a school. Georgia and Quarterbacks is a big example, the easiest example.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 7:46 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I know we probably pay, too, but I don't feel like we bid or just get into the wars.
Players everywhere get "benefits". when a school gets in
trouble is when the benefits get too large or too noticeable or sometimes when a program shoots from mediocrity to top 5 in recruiting. The new rules regarding pay for endorsement will be a legal way for some high profile schools to promise benefits. This will be the end of the so called level playing field in college sports.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:12 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I know we probably pay, too, but I don't feel like we bid or just get into the wars. There are tons of examples where it just makes zero sense but kids decide to go to a school.
I brought this up a couple years back in a cheating thread. I was having a conversation with then head of player relations Otis Yelvington prior to a game in a bar on University. He was hosting Morice Hampton Jr. and his mom. He told me that players were so brazen when they come for visits to ask, right out, "What are you offering?" and it was obvious they were talking cash because they were nieve enough to say what other programs are offering.
Now Otis was smooth and not directly naming other institutions but with the alcohol loosening his tongue it was intimated that UGA and LSU were two of the worst.
I did ask why UF was not following suit to keep up. His response was "that's not the way Dan operates." This goes hand in hand with what I've heard Mullen say several times that he would rather have a roster full of 3 stars that give him 150% day in and day out than full of 5 stars that feel entitled.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:37 am to bengalbait
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"that's not the way Dan operates."
i guess he changed his tune after cam newton took auburn's offer.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 5:56 pm to Peter167
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Sound like Emory is definitely the starter. Nice. Worked out well with Trask not having to look over his shoulder. 40 ppg
Hopefully all the years of coaching under Mullen and Johnson pay off. I believe they will. Also guys like Wright and Bowman get off running RPO and options
Bowman was fantastic in the option at Lakeland. Hopefully the OL just gets better. Hevesy and Gonzales are very good coaches at least to make up for not the most amazing recruiting jmo
Sound like Emory is definitely the starter. Nice. Worked out well with Trask not having to look over his shoulder. 40 ppg
Hopefully all the years of coaching under Mullen and Johnson pay off. I believe they will. Also guys like Wright and Bowman get off running RPO and options
Bowman was fantastic in the option at Lakeland. Hopefully the OL just gets better. Hevesy and Gonzales are very good coaches at least to make up for not the most amazing recruiting jmo
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 3/23/21 at 6:04 pm to FireDanMullen
Not worth mentioning? Mullen is far from his best team he'll ever have at UF and lost 52-46?
With a terrible D even tho they made some stops we could play so much better even under Grantham. Rather someone else like Durkin but last yr was just bad for the the D jmo if goes into next yr bye bye Grantham
With a terrible D even tho they made some stops we could play so much better even under Grantham. Rather someone else like Durkin but last yr was just bad for the the D jmo if goes into next yr bye bye Grantham
Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:06 pm to Peter167
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Not worth mentioning?
I was implying his record vs Saban is mostly from State, where he was 0-9. And therefore not worth mentioning.
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lost 52-46?
Ppl are putting way too much stock in losing close games. The national champions every single year play multiple teams close every single year. Being a loser that lost a close game is nothing to celebrate. Did Mullen call an excellent game on offense? Absolutely. Did we show great resiliency coming back from 3 scores down? Yep. Did we win the game? No. So who cares.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:15 pm to bengalbait
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I brought this up a couple years back in a cheating thread. I was having a conversation with then head of player relations Otis Yelvington prior to a game in a bar on University. He was hosting Morice Hampton Jr. and his mom. He told me that players were so brazen when they come for visits to ask, right out, "What are you offering?" and it was obvious they were talking cash because they were nieve enough to say what other programs are offering.
Now Otis was smooth and not directly naming other institutions but with the alcohol loosening his tongue it was intimated that UGA and LSU were two of the worst.
I did ask why UF was not following suit to keep up. His response was "that's not the way Dan operates." This goes hand in hand with what I've heard Mullen say several times that he would rather have a roster full of 3 stars that give him 150% day in and day out than full of 5 stars that feel entitled.
I don't think it's necessarily just Dan, but also the fact that Florida very nearly got the Death Penalty back in the day for cheating. The Rant hates it but it's true: We're the only school to have won a basketball championship and not be investigated in the last two decades. If we start playing that game, we could likely keep up.
But the amount of Florida fans who just think Dan isn't saying the right thing, or he just doesn't have good arguments to come to Florida -- they're just naive.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:44 am to FireDanMullen
Dak was the one legit QB he could get to miss st then Fitzgerald who had 2 no name offers and MSU. Rated 81 or so idk cant remember. His last year there he took Bama to the wire with Fitz. But in the end lost. I just cant hold that against him. He never had LSU or Aub talent or even A&M. Look at the skill position players in Fla vs miss and the jucos.
He did pretty well with the Juco which has become the portal. He's absolutely killed in the portal from jump grabbing Jefferson Grimes n Schuler off top. Then Greenard the next yr all the way to Bowman.
Woulda been nice if Gilbert was smart lol Pitts about to go 6th and frick the league up. 1k yds and 12 TDs in Philly his hometown
I think Pitts ends up going before Chase, Waddle, and Smith
Jmo if the 4.46 40 is legit lol the way he plays outside, slot, and inline so equally the last 2 years. Basically 30 some % at each position. I cant wait to see him in the league. Burrow throwing to him would be sweet. They take the Oregon LT tho imo
Hurts come correct and Pitts will be your safety blanket
He did pretty well with the Juco which has become the portal. He's absolutely killed in the portal from jump grabbing Jefferson Grimes n Schuler off top. Then Greenard the next yr all the way to Bowman.
Woulda been nice if Gilbert was smart lol Pitts about to go 6th and frick the league up. 1k yds and 12 TDs in Philly his hometown
I think Pitts ends up going before Chase, Waddle, and Smith
Jmo if the 4.46 40 is legit lol the way he plays outside, slot, and inline so equally the last 2 years. Basically 30 some % at each position. I cant wait to see him in the league. Burrow throwing to him would be sweet. They take the Oregon LT tho imo
Hurts come correct and Pitts will be your safety blanket
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 7:55 am
Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:48 pm to Peter167
I wanted him gone at the start of the season. Mullen seems to much like Mark Richt. They both seem to play older players especially at QB with more talented younger guys are waiting behind them. We knew at the start of the season that we had no chance of winning a championship and we started a QB that does not fit Mullen’s system. I could care less about his record , it’s all about championships . You can’t win a championship when you have less talent then all the favorites especially at QB. Mullen is not a national championship type head coach . It’s been a long time since a coach not named Dabo won a national championship at a school with out doing it in his first 4 years. I don’t think Mullen gets fired anytime soon. Seems like the fans have become like Georgia fans and are just happy being good. It’s sad where our football and basketball programs are now.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:32 pm to tjv305
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Seems like the fans have become like Georgia fans and are just happy being good. It’s sad where our football and basketball programs are now.
Amen.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:37 am to FireDanMullen
I do want to point out that Florida fans have learned to settle like many fan bases because of the presence of Alabama and Clemson. Outside of lsu catching lightning in a bottle that one year there isn’t anyone else that can compete.
Without Saban in the league there are probably several other coaches in the country with seccg wins and national titles.
Without Saban in the league there are probably several other coaches in the country with seccg wins and national titles.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 2:14 pm to slayerxing
I've actually come to a point where I enjoy football as an alumni activity more than anything else, and find it hard to get worked up about Mullen one way or the other.
This isn't UF's fault; college football just isn't as much fun to me as it used to be to me. While I think it was far dirtier in the 80s and 90s, it was kind of a homespun kind of dirty - it was our dirty. Likewise, the "mythical national championship" was kind of annoying, but looking back, the seasons were more fun. You rarely got to see the best two teams play at the end of the year, but it was exciting end to end.
It's just all the money; the boatloads of money. With every passing new T.V. deal, conference expansion, and playoff, I just feel more and more disconnected from the team having much of anything to do with the university. At the same moment it seems to be a bigger deal than ever, it seems less to do with the actual university than ever.
I don't watch professional football for a reason; it's just not all that interesting to me. It really hasn't been since free agency blossomed in the 90s.
None of this is a quantitative judgement beyond simply asking myself why I get a little less excited every year. I'm not saying college football should revert back to anything either. It can't. There is no way to put the brakes on wherever this train is going at this point. It's worth far too much money to too many entities for there to be a practical way to return to the 90s or 00s, even if there was some objective way to define what the 90s or 00s even were in order to have a destination to which to return.
I also have no quibble with people who still enjoy it just as much or even more. I can see why people would like what it is now more than what it was and wouldn't try to argue anyone out of that opinion. However, it would seem what I loved about college ball is slowly fading away, so I've noticed my enthusiasm waning. Don't get me wrong. It's still fun to watch, but it doesn't quite have that "it" for me that it used to.
I don't know, I think I've just grown to appreciate that nothing stays the same, so if you are lucky enough to catch whatever it is - a sport, a city, a music scene - when it is really in a renaissance, sop that shite up with the bread and then lick the plate clean because it won't be like that forever. When they say you can never go home, that is much about temporal space as geographical.
So I guess all of this is to say I don't know what I think of Mullen. I don't know that he can win a natty, but I could be wrong. I know that bothers me to some extent that I don't think he will, but I also know it bothers me less than it would have five years ago. Likewise, I know it bothers me to think Florida really was just a two decade flash in the pan that may be destined to return to being just a tier below the true elite programs, but it doesn't bother me as much as it did five years ago. I don't think that's because I'm growing accustomed to mediocrity either.
This isn't UF's fault; college football just isn't as much fun to me as it used to be to me. While I think it was far dirtier in the 80s and 90s, it was kind of a homespun kind of dirty - it was our dirty. Likewise, the "mythical national championship" was kind of annoying, but looking back, the seasons were more fun. You rarely got to see the best two teams play at the end of the year, but it was exciting end to end.
It's just all the money; the boatloads of money. With every passing new T.V. deal, conference expansion, and playoff, I just feel more and more disconnected from the team having much of anything to do with the university. At the same moment it seems to be a bigger deal than ever, it seems less to do with the actual university than ever.
I don't watch professional football for a reason; it's just not all that interesting to me. It really hasn't been since free agency blossomed in the 90s.
None of this is a quantitative judgement beyond simply asking myself why I get a little less excited every year. I'm not saying college football should revert back to anything either. It can't. There is no way to put the brakes on wherever this train is going at this point. It's worth far too much money to too many entities for there to be a practical way to return to the 90s or 00s, even if there was some objective way to define what the 90s or 00s even were in order to have a destination to which to return.
I also have no quibble with people who still enjoy it just as much or even more. I can see why people would like what it is now more than what it was and wouldn't try to argue anyone out of that opinion. However, it would seem what I loved about college ball is slowly fading away, so I've noticed my enthusiasm waning. Don't get me wrong. It's still fun to watch, but it doesn't quite have that "it" for me that it used to.
I don't know, I think I've just grown to appreciate that nothing stays the same, so if you are lucky enough to catch whatever it is - a sport, a city, a music scene - when it is really in a renaissance, sop that shite up with the bread and then lick the plate clean because it won't be like that forever. When they say you can never go home, that is much about temporal space as geographical.
So I guess all of this is to say I don't know what I think of Mullen. I don't know that he can win a natty, but I could be wrong. I know that bothers me to some extent that I don't think he will, but I also know it bothers me less than it would have five years ago. Likewise, I know it bothers me to think Florida really was just a two decade flash in the pan that may be destined to return to being just a tier below the true elite programs, but it doesn't bother me as much as it did five years ago. I don't think that's because I'm growing accustomed to mediocrity either.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:27 pm to slayerxing
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I do want to point out that Florida fans have learned to settle like many fan bases because of the presence of Alabama and Clemson. Outside of lsu catching lightning in a bottle that one year there isn’t anyone else that can compete.
Without Saban in the league there are probably several other coaches in the country with seccg wins and national titles.
This is where I am at with it. I think we are top 10 program that needs to keep building and grinding. Keep improving to whatever we can achieve.
Keep doing that and lay in the weeds for Saban to retire and strike when opportunity presents itself.
I’ve always believed at the minimum UF that in a 10 year span that UF should win the East 6/7 out of ten times. The SEC 3-4 times and compete or win the National Championship once.
That’s my personal standard.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:38 pm to Gatorbait2008
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embarrassing press conferences.
Mullens press conferences are light years better than old shark fricker.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:29 am to Peter167
Only if we can get the 1995-1998 version of Spurrier back.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:47 am to Peter167
Nice that UF and Mullen got the extension done. As Gator
fans lets get behind the coach and team. Go Gators!
(yeah, right I know that will happen)
fans lets get behind the coach and team. Go Gators!
(yeah, right I know that will happen)
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