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Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:47 pm
Florida Gators quarterback Feleipe Franks throws during Spring Practice. [Brad McClenny/The Gainesville Sun]
For those who are thinking — or hoping — that Feleipe Franks will NOT be Florida’s starting quarterback this season, there is some disturbing news to report.
He’s having a good summer. A really good one.
That’s the word from a few of his teammates who I recently interviewed.
“A lot of growth,” junior wide receiver Freddie Swain said of Franks. “Especially with Coach Mullen now. You can see he’s changing. Just from camp, he’s getting smarter, he’s learning and he’s getting bigger, he’s getting faster. He’s just becoming an all-around quarterback. That’s great.”
Franks, a redshirt sophomore who started eight games last season, has emerged as a team leader on the field, in the weight room and in the film room.
Starting middle linebacker David Reese said Franks’ work ethic and conscientious approach have earned him the respect of his teammates, who are ready to follow him.
“He’s come a long way, especially mentally, just growing and maturing as a person,” Reese said. “He always had the ability. Just mentally and being more vocal as a leader, he’s come a good way.”
Swain said Franks is a workout warrior in the weight room, where he’s bulking up to be able to handle the physical demands of being a dual-threat QB.
“That’s actually who I work out with,” Swain said. “We’ll be going back and forth. I’ll get a big weight and he’ll try to outdo me. I’ll try to outdo him. We just push each other. That’s what we need.”
It’s early yet, but Franks might just turn out to be the quarterback the Gators need. We’ll find out in a few months
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:06 pm to reel_gator8
I’ve been told the guys at the Gainesville Sun are washed up has beens and not to believe a word they report.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:35 am to finchmeister08
You were told right.
I won't even talk about how bad Franks is -- all I'll say is:
How do you think guys think the fanbase will react to his first interception thrown? His first fumble? His margin of error is almost zero. At least with another Quarterback they have a clean slate to improve on.
Fans will shite on him right away.
I won't even talk about how bad Franks is -- all I'll say is:
How do you think guys think the fanbase will react to his first interception thrown? His first fumble? His margin of error is almost zero. At least with another Quarterback they have a clean slate to improve on.
Fans will shite on him right away.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:49 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I knew this would get you Straw.... it is too easy. Everyone should have open mind, I don't care who starts as long as the coaches feel good about it. I didn't want Franks to start last year because I knew he wasn't ready.
He might be this year? Time will tell.
He might be this year? Time will tell.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:19 am to reel_gator8
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Everyone should have open mind, I don't care who starts as long as the coaches feel good about it.
Reel, sometimes I believe you are my brother from another mother!
If Franks is the man, he will probably have a short leash. I don't think he has separated himself that far from Trask and the fans will turn on him quickly. Straw will want a change before he takes his first snap.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 8:21 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:50 am to reel_gator8
I have been pretty certain all along that Franks would start the season.
1. Only QB with college/SEC experience
2. Lots of physical tools
3. Appears to have a prominent leadership role in the locker room.
I think Mullen sees enough "stuff" there to give him a year. Worst case scenario, you start the freshman after a few weeks of game prep when he crashes and burns. Best case, he grows from a thrower into a passer and provides an adequate but entirely unexceptional running threat.
Trask has always been a pipe dream and Jones will have to outplay Feleipe when he gets the chance (I'm sure he'll get some game time).
1. Only QB with college/SEC experience
2. Lots of physical tools
3. Appears to have a prominent leadership role in the locker room.
I think Mullen sees enough "stuff" there to give him a year. Worst case scenario, you start the freshman after a few weeks of game prep when he crashes and burns. Best case, he grows from a thrower into a passer and provides an adequate but entirely unexceptional running threat.
Trask has always been a pipe dream and Jones will have to outplay Feleipe when he gets the chance (I'm sure he'll get some game time).
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:59 am to reel_gator8
"I don't care who starts" wasn't what you were saying last year when Franks started, in fact, I think the two of us were the only ones who wanted Del Rio while the rest of Gator nation shitted on him.
I'm not even debating at this point, I'm just saying: How do you guys think his first interception is going to go over? Is he that much significantly better than Trask? No one has seen that.
What do you guys think, optically, will be the difference between a Trask and Franks interception? If anything is a pipedream, it's the guy who can't separate himself from a guy who hasn't started in six years.
I'm not even debating at this point, I'm just saying: How do you guys think his first interception is going to go over? Is he that much significantly better than Trask? No one has seen that.
What do you guys think, optically, will be the difference between a Trask and Franks interception? If anything is a pipedream, it's the guy who can't separate himself from a guy who hasn't started in six years.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Trask has never taken a snap in college. The spring game is on now on the SECN and the answers-questions posed to Mullen by SECN announcers were revealing. He talked about Franks when asked and stated that Franks was not ready last year and wasn't put in a position to be successful by the previous staff. When asked about Trask, he said" he's learning" as first response. Read between those lines Straw and don't be bull headed so much.
Now, if Trask learns enough and really lights it up by fall....then maybe he might get the nod. Watch the spring game, he fumbled, he missed some open receivers...so he didn't exactly light it. I still see some slow delivery in his arm movements...but it has improved some from 2017.
If Franks starts...it will be because he has earned it and has been in game huddles and taken snaps a lot more. By mid season...if he isn't improving enough I expect Jones will get more PT. None of us know yet.
I'm more concerned with our run game...we finished 75th in the country in rushing ypg and if we do the same in 2018...it will not matter who the QB is because we will be average at best. Special teams will have to be much better on return and coverage teams.
Now, if Trask learns enough and really lights it up by fall....then maybe he might get the nod. Watch the spring game, he fumbled, he missed some open receivers...so he didn't exactly light it. I still see some slow delivery in his arm movements...but it has improved some from 2017.
If Franks starts...it will be because he has earned it and has been in game huddles and taken snaps a lot more. By mid season...if he isn't improving enough I expect Jones will get more PT. None of us know yet.
I'm more concerned with our run game...we finished 75th in the country in rushing ypg and if we do the same in 2018...it will not matter who the QB is because we will be average at best. Special teams will have to be much better on return and coverage teams.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:33 pm to reel_gator8
Reel, you're about the most bullheaded there is regarding making decisions and not changing your mind.
I already gave my proof, I'll post it again.
https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-podcast-doug-johnson-kyle-trask
Former QB Doug Johnson.
James Di Virgilio rips Franks a new one, Trask is ahead they talk about it 21 minutes in.
James actually attends most of the practices and plays on the official Florida Gators flag football team with Danny.
Gators Breakdown says Trask is ahead.
Jordan Sheritt says Trask will start and says Franks bitches about playcalling but won't be able to because Mullen calls the plays.
Sherit is like the dad of the team.
Offensive line, actual guys with QB experience, everyone who knows anything about football understand that Franks is no where near ready. He needs another year, period.
Especially listen to the Divirgilio podcast most, man.
I already gave my proof, I'll post it again.
https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-podcast-doug-johnson-kyle-trask
quote:
“Because if I’m the coach and I don’t see a clear winner — and I didn’t see a clear winner — I would probably lean towards Trask because of the fact, to me, that he processes the field better. … Worst-case [scenario], it’s a dead-even heat with a guy who hasn’t even gained the game experience that the guy he’s competing against has. So what’s he going to do when he gains that game experience?”
Former QB Doug Johnson.
James Di Virgilio rips Franks a new one, Trask is ahead they talk about it 21 minutes in.
James actually attends most of the practices and plays on the official Florida Gators flag football team with Danny.
Gators Breakdown says Trask is ahead.
Jordan Sheritt says Trask will start and says Franks bitches about playcalling but won't be able to because Mullen calls the plays.
Sherit is like the dad of the team.
Offensive line, actual guys with QB experience, everyone who knows anything about football understand that Franks is no where near ready. He needs another year, period.
Especially listen to the Divirgilio podcast most, man.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:38 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Trask out there hanging with recruits.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:19 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Maybe Franks will work really hard this summer and fall and actually learn to make reads. But I seriously doubt it.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:29 pm to slayerxing
Heart of hearts, I think he needs another year to develop -- and I know people are going to hate hearing that. His problem is that he's not even starting at zero, he's starting at a negative number. He has to UNLEARN the bad things, then learn the good things.
With the arm strength he has, it's a shame but I really feel like he could take a year off and really shine and most of all: Wash off last year.
With the arm strength he has, it's a shame but I really feel like he could take a year off and really shine and most of all: Wash off last year.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:29 pm to reel_gator8
This is a fluff piece with quotes from his workout partner. I’ll believe it when I see it and pray whoever is taking snaps is handing it off 65% of the time, because ain’t none of them ready.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:09 pm to GatorBait24
Thank you. No one who is affiliated with the program/beat writers will ever at any time will say a Quarterback is bad.
None of them are ready, but just from a stability point we can't have the face of instability. Frank's first interception will be treated very differently than Trask's.
Franks will be under a microscope day 1.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:57 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
it's nothing personal against Franks. The coaches should start whichever QB they feel gives the team the best chance to win.
But I have to be honest, if Franks is the guy they trot at there to start the year, I will not be feeling very positive about UF's chances.
But I have to be honest, if Franks is the guy they trot at there to start the year, I will not be feeling very positive about UF's chances.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:43 pm to slayerxing
Like I said: The only reason Franks is on the field is if Jones and Trask suck. I'm aggressive with putting down Franks, but it's never been about hatred, it's just I don't think he actually shows any type of development, and he doesn't have any good qualities as a QB.
If he goes out, I'll be worried that he's just going to get benched all over again eventually.
If he goes out, I'll be worried that he's just going to get benched all over again eventually.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:48 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:19 pm to reel_gator8
We hear this stuff every year . Frank has some good talent . This year we will find out if he is missing the mental part or not . The last coaching staff never put any of the QBs situations to succeed. Mullen seems to be a QB whisper .
Posted on 7/21/18 at 11:53 am to tjv305
Here is another story relating to what Lock went through at Mizzou as a frosh to what Franks went through
Missouri’s Lock good example for Florida’s Franks
By Graham Hall -
July 18, 2018
ATLANTA — A quick perusal of social media, college football sites and the countless blogs with an opinion would make it seem UF redshirt sophomore quarterback Feleipe Franks has absolutely no chance at becoming a successful quarterback in the Southeastern Conference.
But SEC Media Days featured a quarterback Wednesday who bounced back after his first season to become one of the premier signal-callers in the conference: Missouri’s Drew Lock.
Lock, 21, threw for 1,332 yards with a 49 percent completion percentage as a freshman in Columbia, with just four touchdown passes and eight interceptions, as the Tigers finished the 2015 season with a 5-7 record. There were undoubtedly skeptics when it came to Lock’s potential and future at Missouri entering that offseason, as there are with Franks at Florida.
Yet when coach Barry Odom arrived the following season, Lock looked like a future NFL quarterback in the making, despite the 4-8 record. Odom’s presence — a hiring Gene Chizik initially called “a desperation move” — has been credited with helping Lock realize his potential.
Which raises the question of why have many written Franks off after just one season, especially considering the turnarounds many make following a year of experience and a new head coach.
It was something Lock experienced himself as a freshman.
“So he’s definitely walked into something that I’ve gone through myself,” Lock said of Franks. “He’s definitely a tough soul, he’s a good quarterback and he’s going to get through it. But I think having a new coach can freshen up your mind, get you back in the groove of maybe being your old self. He was definitely a baller in high school to be able to get to Florida, so he knows how to play football, he knows how to be a great quarterback. He did some great things in his freshman year.”
Reader comments:
Franks didn't have coaching. Mac as offensive mind is offensive. Didn’t see it in the league he came from. That aside Franks wasn’t coached and wasn’t fit.
Missouri’s Lock good example for Florida’s Franks
By Graham Hall -
July 18, 2018
ATLANTA — A quick perusal of social media, college football sites and the countless blogs with an opinion would make it seem UF redshirt sophomore quarterback Feleipe Franks has absolutely no chance at becoming a successful quarterback in the Southeastern Conference.
But SEC Media Days featured a quarterback Wednesday who bounced back after his first season to become one of the premier signal-callers in the conference: Missouri’s Drew Lock.
Lock, 21, threw for 1,332 yards with a 49 percent completion percentage as a freshman in Columbia, with just four touchdown passes and eight interceptions, as the Tigers finished the 2015 season with a 5-7 record. There were undoubtedly skeptics when it came to Lock’s potential and future at Missouri entering that offseason, as there are with Franks at Florida.
Yet when coach Barry Odom arrived the following season, Lock looked like a future NFL quarterback in the making, despite the 4-8 record. Odom’s presence — a hiring Gene Chizik initially called “a desperation move” — has been credited with helping Lock realize his potential.
Which raises the question of why have many written Franks off after just one season, especially considering the turnarounds many make following a year of experience and a new head coach.
It was something Lock experienced himself as a freshman.
“So he’s definitely walked into something that I’ve gone through myself,” Lock said of Franks. “He’s definitely a tough soul, he’s a good quarterback and he’s going to get through it. But I think having a new coach can freshen up your mind, get you back in the groove of maybe being your old self. He was definitely a baller in high school to be able to get to Florida, so he knows how to play football, he knows how to be a great quarterback. He did some great things in his freshman year.”
Reader comments:
Franks didn't have coaching. Mac as offensive mind is offensive. Didn’t see it in the league he came from. That aside Franks wasn’t coached and wasn’t fit.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:47 pm to reel_gator8
Lock has/always had potential, Mizzou had considerably worse players at every position and you can see that he was good but did not have the cast surrounding him, a little like Driskel. He was a good player, and you could see it, but his receivers and offensive line were just hamburger.
Franks DOESN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT.
At a peewee level, at a high school level, at college. Stop posting these fluff pieces as if they actually say something. Franks is not Drew Lock, he's not even fricking TREON HARRIS (WHO HAD BETTER NUMBERS MIGHT I ADD IN HIS SOPHOMORE YEAR AND IS NOT A QUARTERBACK).
Ya'll are just setting up this poor kid for immense, back breaking failure until he transfers.
Franks DOESN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT.
At a peewee level, at a high school level, at college. Stop posting these fluff pieces as if they actually say something. Franks is not Drew Lock, he's not even fricking TREON HARRIS (WHO HAD BETTER NUMBERS MIGHT I ADD IN HIS SOPHOMORE YEAR AND IS NOT A QUARTERBACK).
Ya'll are just setting up this poor kid for immense, back breaking failure until he transfers.
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