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Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:56 pm
I saw where Memphis is going to have them on their helmets if they play this year. What are your thoughts if the Gators decide to do the same?
It would be difficult to watch and support for me.
It would be difficult to watch and support for me.
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:40 pm to Kirby59
Don’t really care.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:14 pm to Kirby59
I could care less one way or the other. Things have gotten so overblown and intermingled that I’m speechless.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:07 pm to Kirby59
Roll my eyes and watch anyways
Would take a lot more than that to stop me from watching Florida football
Would take a lot more than that to stop me from watching Florida football
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:39 am to Kirby59
Universities nor their athletic teams should take political stands, but UF is a left wing PC run university so I would not put it past them. It is getting harder and harder to separate my love for Gator athletics from my dislike for the university administration and their left wing ideology. I have not reached the tipping point yet but getting closer. The NFL is passed that point and I refuse to have anything to do with them. Hopefully UF will not reach that point. I have been a Gator my whole life.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:15 am to UFMatt
quote:so you'd disown UF sports because you disagree with their political views?
UFMatt
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:09 am to SpartyGator
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so you'd disown UF sports because you disagree with their political views?
As I stated, it gets harder and harder to separate the Gator athletics that I love from the university that gets involved in political and social issues that I do not support. IMO, It is not within a state university's scope to be involved in political and social issues at all. But, back to your question, not at this time but it's hard when they say and do some of the things that they do.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:32 am to UFMatt
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As I stated, it gets harder and harder to separate the Gator athletics that I love from the university that gets involved in political and social issues that I do not support. IMO, It is not within a state university's scope to be involved in political and social issues at all. But, back to your question, not at this time but it's hard when they say and do some of the things that they do.
Has UF taken many political stands? Outside of BLM, which pretty much every major organization has released a statement on, what political issues that you don't support has the university involved themselves in?
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 9:01 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:27 am to bgator85
The biggest examples I can think of are, the position on the band playing the state song. Swanee River, limiting freedom of speech for conservative and religious clubs, groups and speakers on campus, admission policies based on ethnicity, and the "gatorbait" decision. I ask, What is next, The Alma Mater? We are the boys is pretty sexist in today's PC culture.
IMO, the university has become too politically correct and outspoken about these issues. Some other universities are much worse but UF is the only one I care about. I am a Floridian by birth and Gator by the grace of God.
IMO, the university has become too politically correct and outspoken about these issues. Some other universities are much worse but UF is the only one I care about. I am a Floridian by birth and Gator by the grace of God.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:05 am to UFMatt
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The biggest examples I can think of are, the position on the band playing the state song.
That's been years, and it's not even played at state functions anymore.
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limiting freedom of speech for conservative and religious clubs, groups and speakers on campus
I do remember them trying to block Richard Spencer, but outside of that it seems there's been a whole host of conservative speakers on campus.
That said, I respect your position and your choice of support. Personally, I didn't agree with the GatorBait decision, but I'm generally very happy with the direction of the university. $2.5 Billion being invested in campus improvements. Close to $300 million in athletic facility improvements. Inching towards top 5 public status. There's some really good things happening right now.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:02 pm to bgator85
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$2.5 Billion being invested in campus improvements. Close to $300 million in athletic facility improvements. Inching towards top 5 public status. There's some really good things happening right now.
I agree that these are good things and they should be commended for them. Now if they will just stop taking actions and taking positions based on political correctness, I will be happy. Go Gators.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 2:36 am to bgator85
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Has UF taken many political stands? Outside of BLM, which pretty much every major organization has released a statement on, what political issues that you don't support has the university involved themselves in?
Really, the reason they shouldn't take political stands is that they can come back to do more harm than good. People forget that BLM was hated a few years ago as a movement and as an organization. It'd be better to say that you simply support most minorities and not endorse any group.
Especially since BLM is turning into a protest organization who seemingly wishes to exist on the hope that injustice happens. There have been several violent BLM incidents as well, which doesn't brand the organization as a whole but really:
There's nothing political in saying that you care about minority lives. But the moment you start bringing organizations into the mix, you're taking a bit of a risk.
All in all, this entire political movement is chaotic and I'd be as ambiguous as permissible.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 8:21 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Really, the reason they shouldn't take political stands is that they can come back to do more harm than good.
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There's nothing political in saying that you care about minority lives.
By why should a state institution say anything at all?
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All in all, this entire political movement is chaotic and I'd be as ambiguous as permissible.
Stay out of social and political issues!
Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:19 pm to UFMatt
I mean, you can come out and support minority lives and not particularly enjoy how BLM makes its sausage. The organization BLM seems more dedicated to waiting for a lightning strike. (white cop abuses black suspect is an incredibly low instance when weighted against all police stops, literally one in several million: https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6406 )
BLM has also had some members/leaders who are for Arbitrary Egalitarianism among other problems with organization which allows for serious issues regarding who actually represents them as an organization.
Florida should 100% stay away from that organization, but I can't see any problem with saying that we stand up for diversity and all maligned people (including poor whites etc. etc.).
However, with the culture we have it may be very difficult to not get shoehorned into going along with these misguided waves.
BLM has also had some members/leaders who are for Arbitrary Egalitarianism among other problems with organization which allows for serious issues regarding who actually represents them as an organization.
Florida should 100% stay away from that organization, but I can't see any problem with saying that we stand up for diversity and all maligned people (including poor whites etc. etc.).
However, with the culture we have it may be very difficult to not get shoehorned into going along with these misguided waves.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:49 am to LuciusSulla
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How can you be so damned Floridian and not know everyone is still operating under the One Florida plan Jeb Bush had implemented back in 1999?
Sure they are. So, you are telling me that if there are 14,000 openings for 2022 and 14,000 Asian Americans have the highest ACT scores, grade point averages and meet all admission criteria that the class of 2026 will be 100% Asian American, except of course for the student athletes? While following the One Florida Plan to some extent, the university still has a diversity plan that determines quotas for % of students based on race, religion, other factors. Don't be naive. I love UF but this is commonly known to be true. This is in no way the biggest issue I have with the current PC atmosphere at UF, but is happening.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 9:07 am
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