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Ben Troupe on Franks.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:29 pm
https://gridironnow.com/former-gator-ben-troupe-confident-in-dan-mullen-not-so-feliepe-franks/
“Quite honestly, I don’t see a lot of awareness,” Troupe said. “People are always talking about a football IQ, but I’m just not seeing the transition, not just one year to the next, but from one game to the next.
“It seems as though you put him in the best opportunities, but his talent doesn’t seem to be translating to the field. He has a big arm, but it takes him too long to get into a rhythm.
“As long as Feleipe Franks is at the helm, I don’t how far this offense can go because if a guy is not making a transition week in and week out, it’s a head-scratcher. Maybe Dan Mullen knows something that I don’t because he sees him every day, but it’s not translating from the practice field to the game field.”
“Quite honestly, I don’t see a lot of awareness,” Troupe said. “People are always talking about a football IQ, but I’m just not seeing the transition, not just one year to the next, but from one game to the next.
“It seems as though you put him in the best opportunities, but his talent doesn’t seem to be translating to the field. He has a big arm, but it takes him too long to get into a rhythm.
“As long as Feleipe Franks is at the helm, I don’t how far this offense can go because if a guy is not making a transition week in and week out, it’s a head-scratcher. Maybe Dan Mullen knows something that I don’t because he sees him every day, but it’s not translating from the practice field to the game field.”
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 6:07 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I’m right there with you. I don’t think he has it between the ears. It speaks volumes as to what we have as alternatives. 
Posted on 9/20/18 at 6:10 pm to bengalbait
It will be very interesting to see what CDM will do when Franks shits the bed in Knoxville. We’ll finally see if in fact he is on any kind of leash.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 8:12 pm to bengalbait
Ben is right...Mullen knows something he doesn't, give it a fricking rest Straws...Trask is not starting...heres a dry hanky for you 
Posted on 9/20/18 at 8:16 pm to bengalbait
The biggest shock to me is how the hell Franks even got cleared academically to get into UF.... makes you wonder what other shite McElwain did to get in a kid that can’t have an IQ over 90.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 8:45 pm to reel_gator8
Hey man, if you can't handle the waves get off the boat.
It's just strange how every ex-player who talks about Franks rarely has anything good to say about him.
I'm not saying it's a Mullen problem, but I am saying that coaches often get arrogant and stubborn enough to not realize that the guy they put confidence in isn't as good as they thought they were.
For the record: I'm fine with starting Jones or Toney even, anyone who at least gives us another look.
The Quarterback who can neither throw or run doesn't have my vote, though.
It's just strange how every ex-player who talks about Franks rarely has anything good to say about him.
I'm not saying it's a Mullen problem, but I am saying that coaches often get arrogant and stubborn enough to not realize that the guy they put confidence in isn't as good as they thought they were.
For the record: I'm fine with starting Jones or Toney even, anyone who at least gives us another look.
The Quarterback who can neither throw or run doesn't have my vote, though.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 8:47 pm to reel_gator8
NegaGators are salty tonight. Hopefully Franks shuts them up on Saturday. Go Gators! in all kinds of weather.......bitches
Posted on 9/20/18 at 9:37 pm to UFMatt
I didn't realize Ben was on the coaching staff...I must have missed that news item..so I guess he has been in the QB room for every meeting when they go over film.
Mullen likes Franks and wants him as starter...do deal wit it...cause his opinion is the one that counts.
Straws you really need to apply for a position at UF in the athletic dept...but I think your office will be titled "janitors closet"
Mullen likes Franks and wants him as starter...do deal wit it...cause his opinion is the one that counts.
Straws you really need to apply for a position at UF in the athletic dept...but I think your office will be titled "janitors closet"
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:06 pm to ForeverGator
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The biggest shock to me is how the hell Franks even got cleared academically to get into UF.... makes you wonder what other shite McElwain did to get in a kid that can’t have an IQ over 90.
I've never thought of him as particularly dimwitted until I saw a lot of his interviews.
I've never seen a guy fumble as many interviews as he has at QB. In one, he literally got his job at Quarterback mixed up. "Mullen wants me to go for the deep plays.......I Mean, he wants me to take the checkdowns".
"What about that pass into the end zone where you stared at a wide open Malik Davis with his hands in the air and proceeded to throw it into the back of the end zone across your body in the middle of the field?"
"It's too complicated, you probably wouldn't understand."
My favorite, though:
"Tom Brady throws interceptions."
Dude just doesn't have all of his dogs barking.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:19 pm to reel_gator8
Hey, man, we get it.
We understand.
You trust Mullen, you don't ever think for your own -- but the only thing that could be more retarded than complaining about who the coach plays is complaining to the people complaining.
We're not on the field, we're not in the locker room, we're not at practice.
We're also not in the Oval Office, we're not in high schools or kindgergartens, we're not experts in politics -- but we all have ideas about what's right and wrong and vote on those ideas.
I'm not sure why I can't use visual and statistical data to cast doubt on a Quarterback who is elected. That I'm not at practice doesn't change the fact that Franks sucks, and if all you're going to do is bleat about how you trust Mullen -- bleat on, but it just seems incredibly stupid to only reinforce every week that you trust the coach on any x's and o's debate.
Knock yourself out, man, but it's such a facile unnuanced approach that it commands zero respect to be taken seriously.
We understand.
You trust Mullen, you don't ever think for your own -- but the only thing that could be more retarded than complaining about who the coach plays is complaining to the people complaining.
We're not on the field, we're not in the locker room, we're not at practice.
We're also not in the Oval Office, we're not in high schools or kindgergartens, we're not experts in politics -- but we all have ideas about what's right and wrong and vote on those ideas.
I'm not sure why I can't use visual and statistical data to cast doubt on a Quarterback who is elected. That I'm not at practice doesn't change the fact that Franks sucks, and if all you're going to do is bleat about how you trust Mullen -- bleat on, but it just seems incredibly stupid to only reinforce every week that you trust the coach on any x's and o's debate.
Knock yourself out, man, but it's such a facile unnuanced approach that it commands zero respect to be taken seriously.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 5:53 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I agree, the "you don't know what Mullen does" crap is getting old. I do know what I see on the field on Saturdays and it a'int much. Franks may be the best practice QB ever, but it sure as shite isn't showing up in the games. I just want to see what one of the options looks like being in charge of this team. If Franks was showing any signs of improvement I'd be on board, but at this point I couldn't care less if he never saw the field again.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:03 am to TomSpanks
Straws is just pissed because he was wrong predicting all summer that Trask would be named starter and Straws cant stand being wrong.
You continuing bash this kid and a HC who has a lot of knowledge about developing QBs disagrees with you. You are a broken record. You wont post about anything else cause you got a swarm of hornets in your shorts. Its not Franks, its you being wrong and not accepting it. Give it a rest.
You continuing bash this kid and a HC who has a lot of knowledge about developing QBs disagrees with you. You are a broken record. You wont post about anything else cause you got a swarm of hornets in your shorts. Its not Franks, its you being wrong and not accepting it. Give it a rest.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:41 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He can run....are you this delusional?
He is exactly the style runner Mullen has always used.
Notice the team isn't backing Trask? Haven't been closed door meetings. No one calling for change on the team. Usually if the locker room feels the back up is better, this happens
Maybe it's time to accept reality. Trask is a back up. A career back up. Even in high school.
Mullen knows QBs. This isn't a Mac Nuss situation because they were clueless morons. Mullen is proven when it comes to this position. So let the man coach a position he is significantly more knowledgeable at than most people, and most coaches.
Mullen has a plan. He has a reason Frank's is on the field. Maybe Frank's is a good leader? Maybe Frank's works the hardest and that sets an example for the future knowing this year will be ehh anyways? Who knows why. Just know. He knows what he is doing when it comes to QBs. Simple as that.
Amazing you can pump Mac for years, but now doubt a far more proven and better coach on the position he is absolutely great at coaching which is more than proven.
Makes me wonder..do you have a clue? If you thought Mac was amazing...yet doubt Mullen with QBs...I'm beginning to think you are clueless.
He is exactly the style runner Mullen has always used.
Notice the team isn't backing Trask? Haven't been closed door meetings. No one calling for change on the team. Usually if the locker room feels the back up is better, this happens
Maybe it's time to accept reality. Trask is a back up. A career back up. Even in high school.
Mullen knows QBs. This isn't a Mac Nuss situation because they were clueless morons. Mullen is proven when it comes to this position. So let the man coach a position he is significantly more knowledgeable at than most people, and most coaches.
Mullen has a plan. He has a reason Frank's is on the field. Maybe Frank's is a good leader? Maybe Frank's works the hardest and that sets an example for the future knowing this year will be ehh anyways? Who knows why. Just know. He knows what he is doing when it comes to QBs. Simple as that.
Amazing you can pump Mac for years, but now doubt a far more proven and better coach on the position he is absolutely great at coaching which is more than proven.
Makes me wonder..do you have a clue? If you thought Mac was amazing...yet doubt Mullen with QBs...I'm beginning to think you are clueless.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:11 am to Gatorbait2008
I do appreciate the debate this brings to the board. Anxious to see his performance this week.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:15 am to slayerxing
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I do appreciate the debate this brings to the board. Anxious to see his performance this week.
The problem is that the battle lines have been drawn and no matter how good or for that matter how bad Franks plays, no one will admit that they were wrong. This fight will go on as long as Franks is the QB, even if that is for 3 years.
We all need to shut up about the players and have some faith in the coaches to make the right decisions.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:47 am to UFMatt
If Frank's gets benched and Trask is lights out I'll happily admit being wrong. But I trust Mullen at the QB position and trust his plan.
Look how strong Miss State is this year. Remember this historically is a program as bad as Vandy in most regards. Even UK has more history.
If he can build a consistent bowl team at State, he can build a power at UF. Going from one of the toughest P5 jobs to one of the easiest to win at.
This year will be rough. But his process is proven. In the same conference, in a tougher division, with a terrible program. People need to relax and let this year just happen and take the lumps. UF simply isn't a good team right now. Qb change isn't really going to fix the weak offensive line, the missed tackles, the dropped balls, the weak defensive line that got pushed like children against UK, the young secondary that has taken terrible angles.
It's very possible Frank's is simply the best leader of the QBs. So he is in till Jones is ready. Cause Trask isn't a long term answer. Despite what Straws imagines, guy is a back up and has been his entire career in high school and college.
Look how strong Miss State is this year. Remember this historically is a program as bad as Vandy in most regards. Even UK has more history.
If he can build a consistent bowl team at State, he can build a power at UF. Going from one of the toughest P5 jobs to one of the easiest to win at.
This year will be rough. But his process is proven. In the same conference, in a tougher division, with a terrible program. People need to relax and let this year just happen and take the lumps. UF simply isn't a good team right now. Qb change isn't really going to fix the weak offensive line, the missed tackles, the dropped balls, the weak defensive line that got pushed like children against UK, the young secondary that has taken terrible angles.
It's very possible Frank's is simply the best leader of the QBs. So he is in till Jones is ready. Cause Trask isn't a long term answer. Despite what Straws imagines, guy is a back up and has been his entire career in high school and college.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:06 pm to Gatorbait2008
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He can run....are you this delusional?
I can give you five of his runs that completely flies in the face of this. In fact, for every good run you give me this year, I can give you three extremely bad ones.
He is not a mobile Quarterback, and NO defense fears Franks running that isn't Texas A&M.
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Notice the team isn't backing Trask? Haven't been closed door meetings. No one calling for change on the team. Usually if the locker room feels the back up is better, this happens
Did you notice that this also happened in the past as well?
Remember that one time the team chose to support a certain Quarterback named Treon Harris? Remember that they selected him over a certain Quarterback who is now on an NFL roster named Jeff Driskel?
I don't give a frick about leadership. Peyton Manning has the leadership capacity of a fricking yam, the personality of a cooked yam. But you know what he does? He gets the job done. If your argument is that the team should select the Quarterback you're worse than reel.
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Mullen has a plan. He has a reason Frank's is on the field. Maybe Frank's is a good leader? Maybe Frank's works the hardest and that sets an example for the future knowing this year will be ehh anyways? Who knows why. Just know. He knows what he is doing when it comes to QBs. Simple as that.
Trump/Obama has a plan. He has a reason he's so decisive on the job. Maybe Trump/Obama is a good leader? Maybe Trump/Obama are actually really intelligent behind the scenes and that sets a precedent for the future. Who knows why? Just know that Trump/Obama know what he is doing when it comes to politics. Simple as that.
I'm sure there are motives, but when we break a 31 streak to Kentucky and the position he is supposedly in an expert in looks like diggity dogshit, I'm allowed to start questioning. I'm allowed to start wondering what the frick is our mission statement.
I'm allowed to look back at why Dak Prescott didn't start over Tyler Russell even though the entire Mississippi State fanbase knew that Prescott was better and wanted him to play, but Mullen stubbornly played him until he was put out with a concussion and Prescott came in and lit the world on fire.
Just because someone is an expert does not mean that they are infallible and no one can know better, in fact, it happens all the time in multiple fields. This is literally one of the staple points of society and philosophy as well as debate.
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We do not need to be shoemakers to know if our shoes fit, and just as little have we any need to be professionals to acquire knowledge of matters of universal interest.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:14 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He mad
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:20 pm to reel_gator8
I'm disappointed. I expected more from our program.
Franks is hitting less of his passes against FBS schools than he did last year against considerably easier competition.
The defense looked worse than last year despite returning most of its starters.
Special teams is markedly better, but outside of that we're seeing a lot of the same things that we've seen every year:
Stubborn coaches who don't make substitutions even when they said they would. "Iron sharpens iron", I have not seen this. I've seen older guys eat plates of shite and younger guys, hungry as frick waiting to get in just watching them from the sidelines.
Franks is hitting less of his passes against FBS schools than he did last year against considerably easier competition.
The defense looked worse than last year despite returning most of its starters.
Special teams is markedly better, but outside of that we're seeing a lot of the same things that we've seen every year:
Stubborn coaches who don't make substitutions even when they said they would. "Iron sharpens iron", I have not seen this. I've seen older guys eat plates of shite and younger guys, hungry as frick waiting to get in just watching them from the sidelines.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I've seen older guys eat plates of shite and younger guys, hungry as frick waiting to get in just watching them from the sidelines.
WTF does this mean? Who wants to eat plates of shite whether you are young or old?
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