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re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet 
on 12/21/18 at 12:29 pm to UpstateCock2007
on 12/21/18 at 12:29 pm to UpstateCock2007quote:
He made a comment a few years back that recruiting guys who understood his defensive philosophy was more important than recruiting guys who were flashy and could shoot/score. The comment was in reference to Mike Carerra, the quintessential CFM player.
Our offense is stale. Teams know they can just pack it in, because our guys suck at ball movement, and they suck at shooting. It is tough to watch for me. Without a Thornwell/Dozier type who can get to the rim, we don't stand a chance. I think Bryant and Lawson both have a ton of potential, but beyond that, nobody impresses me in the least. Not even Silva.
Carerra was a great player to have for our team, but lets look at him post college.
Where is he? Out of basketball? (I do not see him on that G League roster that he was reported to be on a few months ago)
I wouldn't be shocked if Frank hated Michael Beasley and wanted to bench him, and look where he is, sure not an amazing career but he's still in the NBA, why's that, because he knows how to score the basketball.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by SOSFAN on 12/21/18 at 12:30 pm to UpstateCock2007
on 12/21/18 at 12:30 pm to UpstateCock2007Frank has recruited a bunch of support guys not take charge guys like Sin was. I thought it was ludicrous for the program to try and make Silva into some type of potential all-amercian in the media during preseason. Because of Franks unwillingness to change we now have a team that is full of project role players. Lawson is the only one I see that may have the talent to shed the role player label.
So my question to everyone is do we ride with Frank and give this class of freshman another 2 to 3 seasons or do we look to go into another route with a different coach? He has taken this , bottom of the barrel, program to the highest achievement the men's basketball program has ever achieved. It is also looking like his program will need to go through rebuilding stages constantly with the hopes of a tourny run every 4 years.
So my question to everyone is do we ride with Frank and give this class of freshman another 2 to 3 seasons or do we look to go into another route with a different coach? He has taken this , bottom of the barrel, program to the highest achievement the men's basketball program has ever achieved. It is also looking like his program will need to go through rebuilding stages constantly with the hopes of a tourny run every 4 years.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by UpstateCock2007 on 12/21/18 at 12:31 pm to I Bleed Garnet
on 12/21/18 at 12:31 pm to I Bleed GarnetToday's game is all about scoring, and we don't do it. People try to compare Frank's squads to Michigan State and UVA, but the fact is, both of those teams always have guys who can score the rock. We don't.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/21/18 at 12:37 pm to UpstateCock2007
on 12/21/18 at 12:37 pm to UpstateCock2007quote:
tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19
Today's game is all about scoring, and we don't do it. People try to compare Frank's squads to Michigan State and UVA, but the fact is, both of those teams always have guys who can score the rock. We don't.
I mean not only that but I swear Frank has more guys get kicked off or transfer than those teams.
UVA is deadly behind the arc, and they never have top NBA talent from the start like MSU does, but shite they all stay there for 4 years.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/21/18 at 12:41 pm to SOSFAN
on 12/21/18 at 12:41 pm to SOSFANquote:
So my question to everyone is do we ride with Frank and give this class of freshman another 2 to 3 seasons or do we look to go into another route with a different coach? He has taken this , bottom of the barrel, program to the highest achievement the men's basketball program has ever achieved. It is also looking like his program will need to go through rebuilding stages constantly with the hopes of a tourny run every 4 years.
wait till the end of the season and hope he leaves.
if not.
get rid of him
but Ray won't do that IMO
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by SOSFAN on 12/21/18 at 1:03 pm to I Bleed Garnet
on 12/21/18 at 1:03 pm to I Bleed GarnetHell forget what uva did behind the arc little wofford shot lights out and blew us out.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/21/18 at 1:05 pm to SOSFAN
on 12/21/18 at 1:05 pm to SOSFANquote:
Hell forget what uva did behind the arc little wofford shot lights out and blew us out.
Yea they're a better team than us, and really shouldn't be.
We are probably the 4 or 5th best team in the state this year.
I only really expect on a yearly basis to be below Clemson (or us Flip Flopping we both ain't really great basketball programs) but this year it's beyond bad.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by SOSFAN on 12/21/18 at 1:05 pm to I Bleed Garnet
on 12/21/18 at 1:05 pm to I Bleed GarnetWe would be the laughing joke of espn if we fired a coach, 2 years removed from a final four, that took a sorry sc program to heights that its never been.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by UpstateCock2007 on 12/21/18 at 1:20 pm to I Bleed Garnet
on 12/21/18 at 1:20 pm to I Bleed Garnetquote:
I mean not only that but I swear Frank has more guys get kicked off or transfer than those teams.
I agree. Attrition has killed us the last two years. Keita, Beatty, Gregory, Cobb, Felder, the list goes on and on. I know I am missing a few.
I was texting a buddy of mine the other night, and even just having Bowen this year would have been a huge help. We can't develop any chemistry, which is needed in a big way on offense, because we can't keep guys around.
I still think we just need to say screw defense, and recruit a sharp shooter, just one, who will keep other teams honest.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by SOSFAN on 12/21/18 at 2:24 pm to UpstateCock2007
on 12/21/18 at 2:24 pm to UpstateCock2007This is what happens when you miss on all the top players and have to bring in the " take a chance on me " kids.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/21/18 at 2:36 pm to SOSFAN
on 12/21/18 at 2:36 pm to SOSFANquote:
We would be the laughing joke of espn if we fired a coach, 2 years removed from a final four, that took a sorry sc program to heights that its never been.
no we wouldn't
It would be a blip on the radar.
Uconn fired a coach 3 years removed from a national title and no one said anything about it.
Sure that's a different program but they still didn't say shite.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/21/18 at 2:38 pm to UpstateCock2007
on 12/21/18 at 2:38 pm to UpstateCock2007quote:
just having Bowen t
I'm absolutely shocked he even thought of this kid.
Everything you saw and read about him had nothing to do with Frank's philosophy.
Then again he probably came to us because we were the only school to offer him.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by SOSFAN on 12/21/18 at 2:41 pm to I Bleed Garnet
on 12/21/18 at 2:41 pm to I Bleed GarnetAre you really trying to compare our program with uconn's? Uconn is used to being a top team so getting rid of a coach that fails keeping them there makes sense where as a school that hadn't been to tourny in your lifespan, and makes the final four, looks stupid for firing a guy 2 years later.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/27/18 at 8:28 am to SOSFAN
on 12/27/18 at 8:28 am to SOSFANwe aint good.
Clemson owns us right now.
Not sure how in basketball they care less about that sport than we do, pretty evident in Football, don't see us beating them next year either.
Clemson owns us right now.
Not sure how in basketball they care less about that sport than we do, pretty evident in Football, don't see us beating them next year either.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by SOSFAN on 12/27/18 at 12:32 pm to I Bleed Garnet
on 12/27/18 at 12:32 pm to I Bleed GarnetHaven't you heard it's the fans fault for not coming out and supporting the team.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/27/18 at 1:31 pm to SOSFAN
on 12/27/18 at 1:31 pm to SOSFANquote:
Haven't you heard it's the fans fault for not coming out and supporting the team.
yep.
Fans fault that the talent is dog shite.
OH WAIT !!! NO BUT WE ARE GOOD!! THIS TEAM IS GOING TO THE TOURNAMENT!!!
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by I Bleed Garnet on 1/2/19 at 9:41 am to I Bleed Garnet
on 1/2/19 at 9:41 am to I Bleed GarnetHEY A W!!!!
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by SOSFAN on 1/2/19 at 11:11 am to I Bleed Garnet
on 1/2/19 at 11:11 am to I Bleed GarnetIf we only had 20 more games against div 2 teams that have only won 1 game.
re: tOfficial Gamecocks Basketball Thread 2018-19Posted by theGarnetWay on 1/2/19 at 3:22 pm to SOSFAN
on 1/2/19 at 3:22 pm to SOSFANquote:
If we only had 20 more games against div 2 teams that have only won 1 game.
We'd win at least 12.
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