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re: Ray Tanner is all but gone

Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by CockFrmStateFarm
Columbia, SC
Member since Jul 2019
46 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:12 pm to
Agreed. Doesn't feel like there's much "playing nice" going on right now inside UofSC. Idk what's going on, but it seems our off season will be quite the adventure.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

“If we’re totally imploding and no one shows up, I’d say we’ll have a discussion,” Caslen said. “But there’s no desire intended to make a change.”

Might as well get that conference room reserved, Bob.
Posted by Fearless Gamecock
Texas
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:28 pm to
Completely agree with this. Our current President needs to hire his own AD. I would prefer someone not affiliated with the school at all TBH.
Posted by Fearless Gamecock
Texas
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:32 pm to
Geez. Why can't our people just stop talking to the media. It doesn't do anyone any good honestly.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6790 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:01 pm to
Caslen also needs to quit talking about it. The guy is making a mess of this situation, along with the board. Caslen one minute says tanner already talked to FSU about the buyout, then has backtracked. I never supported his hire because he didn’t meet USC’s qualifications for the job, and won purely off politics, but this is firming it up for me.

Tanner is getting the bad rap from a lot of y’all, and I understand why, but no one seems upset with Caslen and his lack of ability to navigate the press
Posted by GarnetStrand
Myrtle Beach
Member since Sep 2016
1185 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:10 pm to
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I never supported his hire because he didn’t meet USC’s qualifications for the job, and won purely off politics, but this is firming it up for me.


Ok Boomer
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6790 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:14 pm to
Bad usage of “okay Boomer” when it’s boomers that support him because “military “, and students that did not, because “victim blaming” and potential accreditation probation.

Again he is unqualified.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:16 pm to
quote:



Ok Boomer

His answer isn’t boomer at all lol
Posted by GarnetStrand
Myrtle Beach
Member since Sep 2016
1185 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:20 pm to
The quoted part is peak Boomer.
Posted by GarnetStrand
Myrtle Beach
Member since Sep 2016
1185 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:22 pm to
Only a small contingent of students, and don't forget the faculty and staff that are against his hiring for political wisdom. My point being the president of a university is a political position, one side is just pissed they didn't get their way for once.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:26 pm to
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The quoted part is peak Boomer.


I wouldn’t think that at all.
Posted by GarnetStrand
Myrtle Beach
Member since Sep 2016
1185 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:32 pm to
Universities aren't apolitical institutions. It shouldn't come as a surprise that different sides of the political spectrum are goin to fight over who fills these positions.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6790 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:33 pm to
In this case yes. It doesn’t look good on USC either. In reality it isn’t supposed to be(political). USC does have qualifications that he doesn’t meet, and the faculty voted no confidence. So hiring him still as President wasn’t a good look. The governors push also wasn’t good. It’s up to the accrediting folks to investigate and determine sanctions.

All that aside, this is a big deal for Caslen’s public image, swaying people towards liking him or creating more angst . Both he and the board really need to quit talking publicly right now though
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 10:34 pm
Posted by GarnetStrand
Myrtle Beach
Member since Sep 2016
1185 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:47 pm to
Yea the faculty Senate voting no confidence doesn't concern me at all. He was still voted in by the BoT, and that's the reality. I'm not too concerned with how we look as much as I am results.


Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12184 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:21 am to
The man is very well qualified. Military leadership is extremely important. Were you one of the dozen snowflake protesters?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12184 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:27 am to
You're right about it shouldn't be political but unfortunately in America we have become a nation of 2 camps. 1- Conservatives who made this country great and 2- Liberals who cry foul over everything and are going to destroy this great nation.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:30 am to
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Military leadership is extremely important

I mean is it though?
I don’t know much about the military but how is he with being the head of a million dollar business?
He’s done that before, the military part is additional fluff
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:32 am to
quote:

s. 1- Conservatives who made this country great and 2- Liberals who cry foul over everything and are going to destroy this great nation.


Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12184 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:32 am to
You would have had to be in the military to understand why we say it's important. Non military personnel would never understand but for those of us that were in the military we totally understand.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5886 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:33 am to
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students that did not, because “victim blaming” and potential accreditation probation.


Expecting personal responsibility isn't victim blaming. The students were pissed that Caslen is a white man, and not a transgender paraplegic Asian otherkin.

The only issue against his hiring was that he doesn't have a terminal degree. That is worthwhile discussion. Everything else is horsecrap. I don't care for the process that put him in power, at all. But I do think he was the best candidate that emerged from that pool, and therefore should have been hired.

The faculty doesn't get to pick their boss any more than I do. Tough shite. The students' opinions I care even less about. College students are coddled and swaddled more than newborns now- and I'm hardly a "back in my dayer." I graduated in '07.

Pastides wasn't much of a president. Caslen needs better media representation, no doubt. How Steve Fink still works at Carolina is a massive mystery.
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