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HalfCocked
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Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
UGA

Edit: give me some time and I'll try to find a way to put a positive spin on this.
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TaterMashinCock
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
I just hope he's heavily involved. They deserve him.


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Lonnie Utah
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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Edit: give me some time and I'll try to find a way to put a positive spin on this.


Mr. Sunshine will do it for you. His wife made him. Their son is on the team.


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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UGA

Edit: give me some time and I'll try to find a way to put a positive spin on this.

He’ll be an unpaid analyst so he can keep his pay

ETA:
Did he actually get hired?
Conflicting reports
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SOSFAN
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
Latest report is he is just visiting. I think thats BS as we all know he is going there.

Muschamp's contract did NOT have the clause that if he works somewhere else the money he makes there reduces what we owe him. Tanner really fricked up. Muschamp can make a million dollars and we still have yo pay him every penny.


I Bleed Garnet
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
What would be be hired as though?
They didn’t fire any DC

Is this just a Sabanlike analyst job ?

Kirby is from the tree, wouldn’t be surprised if he does the same


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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
He could be a paid analyst or they also need a DB coach.


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theGarnetWay
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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What would be be hired as though?


The new Hairy Dawg.


I Bleed Garnet
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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The new Hairy Dawg.

Probably do a better job than the last time he was a Defensive Coordinator


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HalfCocked
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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Muschamp's contract did NOT have the clause that if he works somewhere else the money he makes there reduces what we owe him. Tanner really fricked up. Muschamp can make a million dollars and we still have yo pay him every penny.


You're not serious, are you f'ing serious? How is it possible for someone to be this collosaly retarded on every level. Anyone know where I can catch Tanner and just blister his stupidity? Does he do a live call in show from a restaurant or something?


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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Muschamp's contract did NOT have the clause that if he works somewhere else the money he makes there reduces what we owe him.

Are you sure about this?
Can you send this?


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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
per TheSnake 12/9/20

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That contract points to one issue that will likely make Tanner’s negotiations harder with the school set to owe Muschamp more than $13 million across four years.

Tanner has spoken about “mitigation” as a standard part of the school’s contracts. It was mentioned when several reporters spoke to him about Muschamp’s buyout after a late-season loss in 2019.


Mitigation means that when a coach takes a new job, his new salary is subtracted comes from the former school’s buyout payment. It’s intended to discourage a coach from double-dipping with income from previous and current employers, and lessen the financial burden on the school that just fired him.

Muschamp’s contract does not have any such mitigation language.

The State had his contract and subsequent amendments to it reviewed by a pair of experts in the field of sports contracts — Anita Moorman from University of Louisville and Marty Greenberg from Marquette — and both said the language of the deal says South Carolina would almost assuredly not be entitled to paying less money if Muschamp gets a new job.

“The termination without cause sections do not mention mitigation expressly,” Moorman wrote in an email.

Several calls made and emails sent to USC officials seeking clarifications and comment for this story were not returned.

Greenberg explained that most contracts in the sport require the fired coach to make a good-faith effort to find work, which in turn reduces what the former school has to pay as part of a buyout. Without that, the buyout is relatively straightforward in favor of the coach. He’s owed the payout even if he’s not working next season, which doesn’t leave a ton of room for negotiation.

These parts of the contract have evolved through the years to protect schools, as coaches would get fired from one job and then still get paid a full buyout while drawing a paycheck from a new school. (Muschamp himself did this when he was fired by Florida and then became the highest-paid assistant in the country at Auburn.)

Looking to limit such situations, universities have used increasingly strong and sophisticated language in some deals, as coaches found different ways to take new jobs that would still leave more of the salary bill for schools that fired them. (Former Gamecocks coach Lorenzo Ward did this, taking a below market-level deal after USC let him go.)

Former South Carolina defensive coordinator Travaris Robinson’s contract, which was signed the same year as Muschamp’s, has that mitigation language, right down to a specific element put in to prevent someone from doing what Ward did. Muschamp’s deal did not.

That aspect is standard for most contracts, Greenberg explained, but some don’t have it, including a significant majority of public school head coach contracts in the SEC.

“If you look at the contracts for [Gus] Malzahn at Auburn, [Dan] Mullen at Florida, [Mark] Stoops at Kentucky and [Jeremy] Pruitt at Tennessee, they don’t have that either,” said Greenberg, who does negotiation work for some coaches. “That’s an item that’s negotiated” when coaches are hired.

That absence of that language means that when any of those coaches, or Muschamp, is terminated without cause, as happened last month to the former Gamecocks coach, he’ll get all the money listed as “liquidated damages” in the deal.

Based on the contract amendment spelled out and voted on in a December 2019 university board of trustees meeting, that total is more that $13.2 million, to be paid out to Muschamp until 2024.

All those coaches, including Muschamp and new Gamecocks coach Shane Beamer, are represented by powerful agent Jimmy Sexton.



I Bleed Garnet
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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Jimmy Sexton.

This fricking guy is the definition of a Size Lord
I have a lot of bad shite to say about Tanner. But in this case he, like many other ADs got fricked by someone who fricks A LOT


HalfCocked
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
I don't think so man. I think he genuinely took advantage of an ice cream cone eating retard of ponzi like proportions.



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SOSFAN
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
Tanner and any school atty, that should have read the contract and stopped it, should be terminated immediately.


Carolina_Girl
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
Found this interesting. Beyond ridiculous this even had to be done. F'ing slimeball. And to think Ray Tanner cried bc he had to fire this piece of shite.


Image: https://i.postimg.cc/jqvRxQqb/Pics-Art-01-24-10-15-34.png


Lonnie Utah
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
Image: https://i.postimg.cc/jqvRxQqb/Pics-Art-01-24-10-15-34.png


Does the fact he hired Bobo activate this clause...


HalfCocked
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
Ray Tanner is the AD equivalent of the scrawny white male cuckold mainstream media/advertising is pushing down our throats in commercials.


SOSFAN
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
I don't know if you have ever had any personal dealings with Tanner but I have and everytime I would ask myself how the freak did he get to be AD.


I Bleed Garnet
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re: Guess we got our answer on Muschamp's next gig
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don't know if you have ever had any personal dealings with Tanner but I have and everytime I would ask myself how the freak did he get to be AD.



It’s because our department is in the late 90s


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