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Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:13 pm to Arksulli
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:13 pm to Arksulli
Thank you Sulli ... I lurked every day.
We got on a little win streak there and I held off posting for fear of jinxing the ministreak.
Who are y'all focusing on to replace Bret? I keep hearing Gus bit man oh man ....
Anyways, I kinda hated to see Bret get fired walming off the field. How did you feel about that? He bit off more than he could chew at Arkansas but he was a likeable guy for sure.
David Williams had a decent year along the way too I guess? Or did he? What did you think about him?
We got on a little win streak there and I held off posting for fear of jinxing the ministreak.
Who are y'all focusing on to replace Bret? I keep hearing Gus bit man oh man ....
Anyways, I kinda hated to see Bret get fired walming off the field. How did you feel about that? He bit off more than he could chew at Arkansas but he was a likeable guy for sure.
David Williams had a decent year along the way too I guess? Or did he? What did you think about him?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:43 am to scrooster
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Thank you Sulli ... I lurked every day.
We got on a little win streak there and I held off posting for fear of jinxing the ministreak.
Who are y'all focusing on to replace Bret? I keep hearing Gus bit man oh man ....
Anyways, I kinda hated to see Bret get fired walming off the field. How did you feel about that? He bit off more than he could chew at Arkansas but he was a likeable guy for sure.
David Williams had a decent year along the way too I guess? Or did he? What did you think about him?
Williams ran very well for us. As bad as this season was it would have been far worse if we didn't have him to get the tough yards. It was a running back by committee this year for us or he probably would have gotten more touches.
From what I understand our interim AD Julie "da hammer" Cromer Peoples pulled him into his office just off the field and fired him there. Evidently they wanted to give him a chance to tell the team in person rather then have to phone everyone since the players were all going home for the weekend to be with family.
As to who we want for our next HC... the only name I haven't heard so far is Steve Spurrier. The big money boosters really want Malzahn but it doesn't look like we are going to get him. Norvell out of Memphis, Leach, and... God help us... Lane Kiffin appear to be at the top of the heap right now.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 7:25 am to Arksulli
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Lane Kiffin appear to be at the top of the heap right now.
He's the man.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:00 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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No idea why he's there (probably got offered a ton to move) but I would certainly take a look at him.
Weird situation, with a lot of "looks bad, but that is misleading" parts involved
Narrative as best I know/understand + relatively close to general consensus opinion
Rhett Lashlee has been "under Gus' wing/in Gus' shadow" from playing HS for Gus, playing CFB for Gus and coaching all but 1YR for Gus
Gus' offense, like all offenses, need to innovate/adapt to D responses. Gus' coaching staff (Rhett, Horton, Hand) all have extensive experience with Gus so no one really challenging Gus' ideas or in position to override Gus. When in your parents house, you obey their rules.
AU, with a connection to UConn AD David Benedict, found a soft landing spot for Lashlee to run his own show. It was the right move for both Gus/Rhett, even if perception looks bad. At UConn, Lashlee took a garbage situation and made a significant improvement. The RS SR QB w/ concussion problems had his best year while UConn's offense made improvements with many FR contributors in YR1 of the offense
It was the right move for both Lashlee + Gus, as it gave both the opportunity to innovate the offense and add fresh ideas they weren't getting together at AU.
Pros of hiring Lashlee
-Lashlee/Gus system, the foundation of the system is great. It is extremely difficult to defend except by very talented or well-coached teams
-Lashlee is a good recruiter, but relative to OCs he is great maybe even elite due to his involvement on the trail. By coordinator standards, Lashlee hit the trail hard and had involvement w/ both O + D recruits.
-Lashlee normally elevates the play of his players. You typically see better than expected results from many Lashlee players, especially QB/RB
-Lashlee + Bentley familiarity: Lashlee has a great relationship with the Bentleys already. They should be a great fit together
Cons of hiring Lashlee
-Limited "resume" in terms of running the show
-Still figuring out his interpretation of the Gus offense
-History of very very poor QB evals
-Ability to add complex passing schemes, the limitation at Auburn (maybe Gus' weakness )
Final Thoughts
Lashlee is definitely closer to "high risk, high reward" category than many experienced, known quantity OC candidates. That said, given Jake Bentley + Bentley's familiarity w/ Lashlee, some of the risk is mitigated.
If I was a USCe fan though, I would view Lashlee as a great option and good hire if he is indeed hired.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:04 pm to GenesChin
Thanks man. Appreciate your insight
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:32 pm to GameCocky88
I'm probably more on the pro Lashlee/Gus side and more optimistic about their careers + system just as a disclaimer.
The real issue with both Lashlee/Gus is their lack of passing complexity. Neither one has experience with more innovative or advanced passing schemes nor developing QBs + QB mechanics at a high level.
There are two solutions for this though:
1- Bring in experts approach: Hire assistants that compliment your weakness, learn from them to innovate/advance the offensive scheme. Gus just hired OC Chip Lindsey (Air Raid background), Rhett probably could bring a WR coach w/ good Air Raid experience
2- Rich Rod "Trust the system" Approach: Rich Rod has had success at annual Pac12 doormat Arizona by just doubling down on his system and recruiting system fits. They've beat some good teams over the years and while limited passing, they aren't completely incompetent
The real issue with both Lashlee/Gus is their lack of passing complexity. Neither one has experience with more innovative or advanced passing schemes nor developing QBs + QB mechanics at a high level.
There are two solutions for this though:
1- Bring in experts approach: Hire assistants that compliment your weakness, learn from them to innovate/advance the offensive scheme. Gus just hired OC Chip Lindsey (Air Raid background), Rhett probably could bring a WR coach w/ good Air Raid experience
2- Rich Rod "Trust the system" Approach: Rich Rod has had success at annual Pac12 doormat Arizona by just doubling down on his system and recruiting system fits. They've beat some good teams over the years and while limited passing, they aren't completely incompetent
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:35 pm to GenesChin
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If I was a USCe fan though, I would view Lashlee as a great option and good hire if he is indeed hired.
This is who may favorite was from the start.
And even after he moved to Uconn around that time I had been wanting him for a while.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:36 pm to GenesChin
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The real issue with both Lashlee/Gus is their lack of passing complexity.
I really don't see an issue with this.
Would you say Clemson has passing complexity? I don't.
And they're about to be in the playoff for the 3rd straight year.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:56 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Would you say Clemson has passing complexity? I don't.
Complexity wouldn't be necessarily the right word. Maybe Dynamic? Compared to Gus/Rhett at AU though? Absolutely.
I'm talking basic stuff like very limited route concepts/route trees, no RPOs, 1 receiver read passing. There also are concerns with QB mechanics development, Sean White's footwork
If you could limit Auburn's run game without having to stack the box past few years, force AU to beat you through the air.... well Auburn would just add one to the L column
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 2:59 pm
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