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This is the first and only time I've been envious of the ACC

Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:36 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:36 am
They've handled this scheduling business 50 times better than we have, it's pretty frustrating and IMO embarrassing for our league.

-The ACC came out early this week (or was it last week? I can't remember) and said "we're playing 10 league games plus 1". That would allow tech/clemson/FSU/UL to keep their rivalries, plus throw in UNC/AU if they wanted to get funky wiht the location. The SEC came out a day later and was like nah we don't want to play the ACC
-Then a day or so later the ACC released their full schedule! EVery team could see everyone they're playing and whether it's home away. Nothing form the SEC.
-Yesterday the ACC tweeted "hey everyone, tune in tomorrow at 9am for the full schedule with dates". AGain, nothing from the SEC.



It's frustrating enough thinking that the SEC has ONE fricking guy, a bama grad working in b'ham at that, designing all the schedules himself. But it's really the lack of communication. The big 10 and ACC have both put theirs out, can't the SEC at LEAST say "hey we'll let yall know on [date]" I wouldn't even care if it was next week (actually that's a lie) but at least we would know and have some idea of what to expect. These other minor conferences are making decisions, informign the public, and getting things done while we seemingly haven't done a damn thing. It's really frustrating. And even if the SEC schedule drops 2 minutes after I submit this, that doesn't invalidate all the other stuff said above.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:39 am to
Don't let the plus 1 thing fool you...it was about finally getting ND into the conference. They had to call it a +1 OOC game in order to open that door.

If they had said Conf. only, then no ND.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:09 am to
I can hear Kennesaw State's band practicing a mile or so away. It's giving me the feels.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:23 am to
Too early to know that. The sec didn't need the ACC as much as the ACC needs us.

I believe they did it to themselves with the home state requirement of OOC games.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:44 am to
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The sec didn't need the ACC as much as the ACC needs us


that's true but again my main gripe is wiht the lack of communication adn seeming lack of action. The big 10 and ACC have both already put out team schedules, and the ACC has already released complete schedules with dates. Meanwhile hasn't said a damn word aside from that we're only doing 10 SEC games and that was a week ago. There is truly no reason whatsoever those conferences can put out a schedule alrady and we can't, or at least put out a tweet saying "hey we'll release it next week". It's amateur hour.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:39 am to
I found this. Looks like they were almost ready to announce, but then did not.

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SEC schedule on hold
There was one report Wednesday morning that the SEC planned to release its schedule later in the day. An industry source told the Post-Dispatch the league had tentatively planned to announce each teams’ 10 opponents on Wednesday but not the date of the games. Later in the day, those plans changed and the SEC would not announce anything on the upcoming schedule. Stay tuned.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:05 pm to
Rumor was that Florida was bitching about having to play Bama and AM. Of course that was on the Rant so no telling if it's true
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Don't let the plus 1 thing fool you...it was about finally getting ND into the conference. They had to call it a +1 OOC game in order to open that door.


ND does not count as an OOC game for ACC teams this year. It is being considered a conference game. Every ACC team will be able to schedule an OOC game in addition to playing ND.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:16 pm to
That's only because not every ACC school could play ND this season.

Your logic doesn't make sense. ND wouldn't be able to play 14 ACC games, therefore, they had to call it an OOC because some teams will not get to play them.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:34 pm to
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Your logic doesn't make sense. ND wouldn't be able to play 14 ACC games, therefore, they had to call it an OOC because some teams will not get to play them


They're counting ND as a conference game for this season only. Like the SEC, not every team in the ACC will play each other because of the number of teams. But Clemson already had ND on their original schedule for this season. When the ACC set up their +1 model, they were keeping Clemson's option to play against South Carolina open.

Notre Dame is an ACC conference member for this season only. Their games will count as conference games and they will be eligible to play for the conference championship. Next season, things will go back to the way they were.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:34 pm to
I dont think that is right.

The ACC included the OOC game because ND has so many rivalries across the country. This allowed them to pick 1 game within their state to keep. It also was a weak attempt to preserve GT vs UGA.

ND is included as a conference game within the ACC 10 game series.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:55 pm to
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found this. Looks like they were almost ready to announce, but then did not.


Bama and uf didn’t want to play each other and the sec is basically granting them that wish.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 1:57 pm to
The irony is that both Auburn and LSU both played UGa and Florida in the same season.

That can never happen for Bama except for a season like 2020
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:40 pm to
Good thing you are bad a thinking...:)

The ACC wants ND badly, they are entangled with all sports minus football.

Calling this an OOC game allows for as many ACC schools as possible to play them with the hopes that they join by default. Give them a taste of the goods so to speak.

The ACC is eyeing the 40mm from the ND network to bring into the fold.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:26 pm to
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Good thing you are bad a thinking...:)



Ummm. Ok

quote:

Calling this an OOC game allows for as many ACC schools as possible to play them with the hopes that they join by default. Give them a taste of the goods so to speak.


Have you seen the ACC schedule?
I dont think you understand. Notre dame is not the out of conference opponent.

They are the 15th conference team.

Try google.
Posted by superdawg
Chattanooga
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:51 pm to
I'm sure the reason we still don't have the new schedule is because auburn won't stop crying, whining, bitching and begging for a better deal for themselves.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Good thing you are bad a thinking...:)

The ACC wants ND badly, they are entangled with all sports minus football.

Calling this an OOC game allows for as many ACC schools as possible to play them with the hopes that they join by default. Give them a taste of the goods so to speak.


Apparently, reading comprehension is not your friend since two of us are telling you how it works for this season, but I'll try it again.

Notre Dame is not considered an OOC game for ACC teams FOR THIS SEASON ONLY. They are a conference member and are eligible to play for the ACC Championship THIS SEASON. They, like every other ACC team, will play 10 conference games +1 OOC game (Western Michigan).

LINK

quote:

What Irish Breakdown reported last week has come to fruition, and Notre Dame will play a 10-game ACC schedule for the 2020 season. The Irish will also be eligible to play in the ACC championship game.


Tech, for example, plays Notre Dame at home on 10/31. They also play UCF at home on 9/19. The ACC is only allowing one non-conference game. That would be UCF, as ND counts as a conference game.

Maybe that will help.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:45 pm to
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That's only because not every ACC school could play ND this season.

Your logic doesn't make sense. ND wouldn't be able to play 14 ACC games, therefore, they had to call it an OOC because some teams will not get to play them.


Every ACC team that plays ND also plays an OOC game. ND is playing Western Michigan (I think) as their only OOC game.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 4:50 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:47 pm to
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ND is playing Stanford (I think) as their only OOC game.


They're playing Western Michigan. Even though it's Navy's turn to "host" the Navy/ND game this year, I kind of assumed that Navy would end up traveling to South Bend. I'm shocked that isn't happening.
Posted by AlaCowboy
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:54 pm to
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ND is playing Stanford (I think) as their only OOC game.


I already corrected my error.
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