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Posted on 11/14/17 at 8:12 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 8:12 pm
We have a very good team. We can shoot, rebound, we play tough D and share the ball. We are going to give a lot of teams fits with our length and ability to spot up shoot.

It's going to take us pretty far, I believe, but when it ends it will be because our guard play is not up to snuff. The lack of a lead guard is really our only weakness. Hopefully Harris makes some strides as the season goes on. He's got the natural ability to be that. Until that time, I really wish we'd let Phillips run the point and slide Robertson over to the 2.

Ramey would be a huge get if we can pull it off for next year.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 8:18 pm to
Once MPJ is back I would keep Puryear as a starter. Let Barnett and MPJ help with ball handling.
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 8:57 pm to
I wouldn’t. Puryear is a great kid, and an average player that looks really good against below avg teams. He can’t jump at all, and when he gets up against good teams, he gets stuffed. His balhandling kills are not up to guard standards either. I also think after the press caused us problems last night, either Phillips or Harris have to be in the game. CVL is not the answer, and MPJ is not the answer to breaking the press on the Dribble.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 9:07 pm to
Right now, I'm running with

Phillips
Robertson
Barnett
Puryear
Tilmon

When MPJ gets back he replaces Puryear. When Harris is ready he takes over for Phillips.

We dominated the last game obviously, but where we did have some trouble was against their press. If I saw it, then I know other teams did. They will also be longer and more athletic than Wagner.

Robertson is a way better ball handler than I thought he was, but he can't be the only one on the floor. Need a quick guard with good handles to pair with him.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 9:12 pm to
Puryear in that lineup would be the 5th option offensively. That’s a mismatch. And if a team puts a big on Puryear he can step out and hit his 3’s, and MPJ or Barnett would have a huge size mismatch against opposing guards.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5830 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 9:12 pm to
Stop the press by keeping the ball in the middle of the court. It doesn’t matter who it is with the ball if they get stuck on the sideline.

I hate when a guard gets stuck in the corner.
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 9:38 pm to
True, but we still need 2 ballhandlers to bring it down the court. We had 17 turnovers again, against Wagner, and a lot of them came against the press.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 9:47 pm to
Many of the turnovers came after the game was decided.
Tilmon and Jontay combined for 6 TO’s, none against the press. They will learn what they can and cannot do against D1 competition.
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:00 pm to
Mizzou doesn't have a good ball handling guard that beat the press and when they play against better teams and especially pressing teams they will probably have about 30 something turnovers and get blown out of the gym.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:04 pm to
You don’t have to have great ball handling guards. Texas A&M showed the perfect way to beat a press against WVU.

It’s obviously easier with an elite ball handler, Harris has potential to be that. But he isn’t one yet.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5830 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:47 pm to
Depending if it is a zone or man press. In a man spread it and let the point guard bring the ball down the middle.

In a 1or 2 man front zone press pass the ball to the middle and keep it away from the sidelines to avoid the trap.

In any press the solution is to avoid a trap and the best way to do that is get the ball in the middle.
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:42 pm to
Most of these teams are man pressing, and trapping in the corners. A good ball handling guard can break that on his own. We need Harris to step up quickly, or put Geist in the game to help out Robertson, or just bring it down himself.
Posted by seaniec04
St Louis, MO
Member since Jan 2014
726 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:19 pm to
This team will be fine against the press. The biggest issue with Kassius bringing it up is that a press exhausts you. We have other weapons though to score, so not as though we are reliant on him scoring. It’s not as though a ton of teams are going to press us this yr either.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:30 am to
I'd press the shite out of us. For sure. We struggled with it. We don't struggle much in the half court.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:12 am to
This team will be fine against the press. If the other team presses us, we’ll go with Phillips at the point. We’ve got a lot of finishers. I don’t think pressing will be a solution for our opponents, especially as the season wears on.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:55 am to
quote:

If the other team presses us

The guys will just throw it to one of our 7'9" guys; easy peasy lemon squeezy
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