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This was a perfect game.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 7:15 pm
If we had blown out the fancy chickens, people would be talking how everything is coming together. How Bert has a good path to coming back next year..but with this extremely bad win, trailing until 1.5 mins left, shows how enept this coaching staff is and that a change is desperately needed, while still letting the kids enjoy a win.
On a side note, he wouldn't have lasted the weekend if he had lost. The win just extended his employment to the end of the season.
On a side note, he wouldn't have lasted the weekend if he had lost. The win just extended his employment to the end of the season.
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Posted on 11/4/17 at 7:17 pm to OSqueal
When he’s back next season. 
Posted on 11/4/17 at 7:32 pm to RazorHawg
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When he’s back next season.
Don't you put that on me Ricky Bobby.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 8:28 pm to OSqueal
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shows how enept this coaching staff is and that a change is desperately needed, while still letting the kids enjoy a win.
Bert isn't the first coach here to have a barely won against the shitty sunbelt school game, he probably won't be the last.
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On a side note, he wouldn't have lasted the weekend if he had lost. The win just extended his employment to the end of the season.
He isn't going to be fired before the season is over, there is absolutely no benefit to do so outside of fulfilling instant gratification for a portion of the fanbase.
What you really want to do during a bad year is fire the coach so his staff can start the job search early, quit recruiting, and allow the team quit only adding further embarrassment and frustration for the season, see: Florida.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 8:49 pm to DaleDenton
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He isn't going to be fired before the season is over, there is absolutely no benefit to do so outside of fulfilling instant gratification for a portion of the fanbase.
Good chance he would've been let go tomorrow or Monday if this game was lost, I have no doubt in my mind. It would've been the single worst loss in the modern history of razorback football, and that's inexcusable in year 1 let alone YEAR 5.
We would've been the laughingstock of the sports news nationwide and that damages a program to the very core. That happens and you don't take some sort of action as AD then YOUR job, actions, and reputation as AD come into the national spotlight. You then have to change jobs or face being fired to save any sort of dignity the program has left.
Doesn't matter if it's not the right time for any reason or if you'd prefer to wait till the end of the season, you HAVE to fire the coach after that.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 8:55 pm to RazorBroncs
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It would've been the single worst loss in the modern history of razorback football, and that's inexcusable in year 1 let alone YEAR 5.
This is simply not true, but I really don't feel like debating it by talking about all the actual shitty losses that have racked up in the modern era.
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We would've been the laughingstock of the sports news nationwide and that damages a program to the very core. That happens and you don't take some sort of action as AD then YOUR job, actions, and reputation as AD come into the national spotlight. You then have to change jobs or face being fired to save any sort of dignity the program has left.
You are coming off as being very insecure, the loss wouldn't have even registered on sportscenter outside of the ticker tomorrow morning.
It wouldn't have received the same pub as the ULM loss a few years ago, we aren't ranked, we aren't highly ranked, we don't have a winning record, no one would give a frick. It would be on the same level as Ms. State's loss to USA last year.
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Doesn't matter if it's not the right time for any reason or if you'd prefer to wait till the end of the season, you HAVE to fire the coach after that.
There are very few instances where you HAVE to fire a coach mid-season and 99% of them involve off the field issues.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:10 pm to RazorBroncs
Quite honestly, I think he should be fired tomorrow for this game regardless of the fact that we pulled out the win.
In year 5, we are a complete mess to the point that in consecutive weeks we’ve had to dig out of a hole against teams with interim head coaches and backup QBs, one of which may be the worst team in the FBS.
If Long had a shred of balls left, he’d hold a press conference tomorrow intimating that we’re “going in a different direction” and that we’re moving on from Bielema, thus giving us a head start on our coaching search.
Moot point, though.
In year 5, we are a complete mess to the point that in consecutive weeks we’ve had to dig out of a hole against teams with interim head coaches and backup QBs, one of which may be the worst team in the FBS.
If Long had a shred of balls left, he’d hold a press conference tomorrow intimating that we’re “going in a different direction” and that we’re moving on from Bielema, thus giving us a head start on our coaching search.
Moot point, though.
This post was edited on 11/4/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:15 pm to Feral
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thus giving us a head start on our coaching search.
Biggest fallacy about coaching searches.
You are not going into negotiations with a HC while he is still coaching his team towards the end of the regular season.
You can talk to his agent and accomplish the same thing while retaining your current HC until the end of the season.
The only HC I can recall that would take actual calls from suitors in season was Houston Nutt and is that really the type personality you want in a HC because that is exactly what the "making the job known to be open for a head start" accomplishes, any decent person says, "we will discuss after the regular season".
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:21 pm to DaleDenton
I don't see where it has helped Florida at all, as of yet.
Did tenner learn it's lesson from the past?
Did tenner learn it's lesson from the past?
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:24 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I don't see where it has helped Florida at all, as of yet.
It really helped LSU last year.
The made it know that big-time job was open and all the best HC's in the land flocked to their door put put in an application for an interview.
I'm sure if their fans knew they would land Orgeron, they would have wished Miles was fired only sooner earlier.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:25 pm to DaleDenton
I really don’t give a frick about our coaching search right now. That was simply an aside.
I don’t really care what our solution is, but a fire needs to be lit under this team. Who knows what our core issue is, whether the coaches are complacent and/or lazy or the players are or both, but I’ve not seen a team so regularly ill-prepared and consistently flat since the Ford era.
I don’t really care what our solution is, but a fire needs to be lit under this team. Who knows what our core issue is, whether the coaches are complacent and/or lazy or the players are or both, but I’ve not seen a team so regularly ill-prepared and consistently flat since the Ford era.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:42 pm to DaleDenton
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It really helped LSU last year.
Meh, runway aside, LSU wound up with O because they have unequivocally the worst AD in the country who gave him the permanent job out of butthurt and spite when Herman made it known wanted to see what would transpired at Texas. Instead of simply progressing through alternative options, Alleva got the redass and hired O in a reactionary move “because he wanted the job.”
I’m no fan of Long - my disdain for him is growing - but I have much more faith in him executing a coaching search than that.
LSU also battled a perception problem that we won’t have to, in that they fired their winningest coach of all time 4 games into the season because they live in a fantasy world where they’re on equal footing with Alabama. Coaches aren’t exactly lining up to coach at a place where 10-2 and/or a loss to Alabama is unacceptable. Inversely, we still somewhat apologize for our coach who carries a .483 winning percentage and whose best season in 5 years included home losses to Toledo and Texas Tech.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:58 pm to Feral
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Meh, runway aside, LSU wound up with O because they have unequivocally the worst AD in the country who gave him the permanent job out of butthurt and spite when Herman made it known wanted to see what would transpired at Texas. Instead of simply progressing through alternative options, Alleva got the redass and hired O in a reactionary move “because he wanted the job.”
That is the LSU fan line to explain why the job wasn't as desirable as they thought, it isn't black and white like that, its hard to hire a coach when their first response is "not interested"...
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I’m no fan of Long - my disdain for him is growing - but I have much more faith in him executing a coaching search than that.
Well, his coaching searches have concluded with Petrino, Bert, and Anderson for the major sports, all thought to be home run hires at the time. 2/3 isn't bad...
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LSU also battled a perception problem that we won’t have to, in that they fired their winningest coach of all time 4 games into the season because they live in a fantasy world where they’re on equal footing with Alabama. Coaches aren’t exactly lining up to coach at a place where 10-2 and/or a loss to Alabama is unacceptable. Inversely, we still somewhat apologize for our coach who carries a .483 winning percentage and whose best season in 5 years included home losses to Toledo and Texas Tech.
What do you think the perception will be firing Bert today instead of after Thanksgiving weekend?
Lets look at the national perception of the program, true or not, perception is reality.
Bert comes into a program that not only imploded the year prior, their APR is becoming a serious concern, likely leading to penalties if not corrected.
Bert has a bad first year, a roster void of talent or upperclassmen contributors.
He progresses each year, makes 3 straight bowl games, has a set back year in a season where he loses his best O-linemen, starting QB, RB, leading returning WR, etc due to injury which results in his firing with less than 3 games to go in the season.
So you have the above perception of the program with the perception of Arkansas's history since joining the SEC as being very up and down with a bad season destined to occur one recruiting cycle of 4-5 years.
So the end result is the perception that Arkansas's expectations are no less unrealistic than LSU's, Tennessee's, or Florida's in a conference where there can be only one Alabama...
Want to make a bad situation worse for Arkansas? Fire the HC in season for on the field results.
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