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Offensive gameplaning for Bama

Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:22 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:22 am
Pittman said in his post game presser that they attempted to run some screens tonight because they knew LSU was going to blitz alot, but they failed because "we couldn't block em."

Pitt said they did it in practice, but couldn't in the game. He said he also expects Mizzou and Alabama to both blitz a lot in the coming games and that the team "needs to get that fixed."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing any slants or quick passes against the obvious blitz looks in the game tonight, and I expect Bama to try to shut down the run on 1st and 2nd down, and then blitz heavy in every obvious passing situation.

How do they fix it?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:36 am to
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing any slants or quick passes against the obvious blitz looks in the game tonight,


Yeah that's what I saw as well. We did some it but not really when we needed to. It seemed like we wanted long developing plays. And we need to have treylon stop throwing the ball, there's a reasons he's a wr.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:02 am to
Shouldn't we also have Trelon Smith or AJ Green in the game on 3rd down if for the screen game?
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:22 am to
Several of the blitzes were well hidden and when you couple that with a front 4 that were already giving our guys trouble then the blitzes are nearly impossible to block.

Our super slow PA passes don't help the situation at all either.

Their D coordinator was a step ahead of Briles all night.
Posted by beebefootballfan
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 4:52 am to
We need Brad Davis back in a bad way.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 5:25 am to
Yeah there were multiple times where LSU went cover 1 or cover 0 and we should have been tagging burks on a hot route go and having kj simply catch the ball and lob it 40 yards down field and let burks go make a play. If teams are gonna leave him 1 on 1 I like our chances on 50/50 balls. I only saw us do this one time and it was to warren Thompson and even though kJ overthrew him slightly he was open had about 2 steps on his defender
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 6:50 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 6:14 am to
Needed to run some slants then
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:44 pm to
Another thing LSU did was bring the safety or linebacker down late. KJ would look at the defense, look at the sideline and get into his cadence and stop looking. They'd bring the blitzer down and he'd be caught off guard. Probably noticed that on tape at some point. They need to get that fixed. He's got to be more aware late in the play clock.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:27 pm to
Can KJ not aubible or is that just simply not in this offense?

There's a good indication when 8 guys are on the line of scrimmage, that a jailbreak blitz is coming.

I only counted once or twice in that formation that LSU actually dropped anyone into coverage in that look.

I would think it's a very simple, one word audible to a blitz look, no?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:52 pm to
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Shouldn't we also have Trelon Smith or AJ Green in the game on 3rd down if for the screen game?


Yeah or rocket Sanders who was a wr and has shown great hands.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:09 pm to
Anyone have any good reason they can think of as to why rocket didn’t play Saturday?
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:16 pm to
The biggest knock on all of the Baylor QBs from the NFL was their inability to read a defense. That would be the disadvantage of the "check with me" offenses.

The advantage would be you don't need an NFL capable QB to run your offense.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:17 pm to
He did play, he was stuffed on a running play.
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 6:07 am to
quote:

We did some it but not really when we needed to. It seemed like we wanted long developing plays.


We were killing ourselves with the slow developing plays against their blitz. It seemed like the only thing that we tried were some RB screens (which they picked up easily) or 2 yard outs (which either netted no gain or lost yardage). Not sure why we never snuck a TE up the seam against the blitz, nor did we ever try to take advantage of Burks in man coverage.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:02 am to
Some of the media people were saying post game that they were double covering burks all game but i know for a fact there were times he was single covered because a couple of those blitzes were 7 man pressures which mean they had nobody over the top of anybody. If we get that look any other time this year it should be an automatic throw to burks
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:01 am to
There several plays where I was yelling at my TV “BURKS IS IN MAN!”
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:

the team "needs to get that fixed."



quote:

How do they fix it?




work on hot reads all week, that's how

part of KJ's progression as a quarterback, ridiculously, was seeing LSU rush gaps like a metro ghetto high school team

how do you anticipate someone is going to do that?

Coach O is a drunk as shite lame duck who didn't give an shite and just hurled kitchen sinks all night. LSU gambled on not being sound at any point in the night, and they didn't give a shite.

like fighting barbarians


look at our other games when KJ is hitting his hot reads, against sound defenses


the douchebags at Mizzou might try to copy caveman shite LSU did, I don't know
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Can KJ not aubible or is that just simply not in this offense?




do you not know what a hot read is?


It's "an audible" on the fly, QB and WR already have it in their heads to react to


it's predetermined when a zone is vacated by a blitz

it's automatic - no need for an audible


LSU has extremely talented athletes, and it might as well have been Archie Cooley from UAPB telling them to just run the gaps all night


like a dying man rolling $100K on craps tables and not giving a shite


no one does that except dipshit Orgeron when he's already dead
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:48 am to
LSU was bringing "well timed" heat because they didn't care if it didn't work. Kitchen sink.


their gameplan was to either win by a little or lose by 40. They were shooting craps with blitzes, and if they ended up offsides, oh well


any well designed offense beginning in the spring and into August is not going to be prepared for that stupidity. Orgeron is a lame duck, and he did all that for that very reason.


Why did Alabama only score 20 against them? Same reason


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Some of the media people were saying post game that they were double covering burks all game but i know for a fact there were times he was single covered because a couple of those blitzes were 7 man pressures which mean they had nobody over the top of anybody. If we get that look any other time this year it should be an automatic throw to burks



media people have no idea what they're talking about


2 deep man under certainly has two safeties over the top

that involves OLB's/nickel type guys on the inside receivers, so if their targets end up blocking, they delay blitz at times based on game plan
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