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Perspective for Texas and OU as they move to the big leagues
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:20 am
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:20 am
Lots of smack talk but here is some perspective on just how much of a level up in competition you are about to experience.
Last year OU was 10th in Recruiting and Texas was 15th. Not bad. That would have put you at 5th and 7th in the SEC with Ole Miss on your tail. The numbers shift year to year a bit but that's been pretty consistent for some time.
Texas and OU had 2 5 Stars and 22 4 Stars. Not bad. The top 2 in the SEC had 9 5 Stars and 32. The next 2 had 5 5 Stars and 26 4 Stars.
The bigger issue is the gap from there. OSU had the 3rd Ranked B12 Class and would have just edged out UK for 12th in the SEC (14th with Texas and OU). The bottom 10 schools in the Big 12 had a combined 12 4 Star players.
The next 10 in the SEC had 1 5 Star and 45 4 Stars.
If anything this was a down year for the SEC compared to recently. USC fell off the map. Auburn was down. We usually do better.
The competition jump is staggering and relentless. There are just very few teams you will play that you will have the big talent advantages you were so used to in the Big 12. You have to show up every week because you can't just out talent people.
In Texas' case something that they really need to be concerned with is they have had very little success in recruiting OL/DL in the last few years, most of their talent is at the skill positions. The SEC is an extremely physical LOS league and that's going to be a real problem. OU is better balanced talent wise but to the original point they are still only upper middle of the SEC in terms of overall talent.
Last year OU was 10th in Recruiting and Texas was 15th. Not bad. That would have put you at 5th and 7th in the SEC with Ole Miss on your tail. The numbers shift year to year a bit but that's been pretty consistent for some time.
Texas and OU had 2 5 Stars and 22 4 Stars. Not bad. The top 2 in the SEC had 9 5 Stars and 32. The next 2 had 5 5 Stars and 26 4 Stars.
The bigger issue is the gap from there. OSU had the 3rd Ranked B12 Class and would have just edged out UK for 12th in the SEC (14th with Texas and OU). The bottom 10 schools in the Big 12 had a combined 12 4 Star players.
The next 10 in the SEC had 1 5 Star and 45 4 Stars.
If anything this was a down year for the SEC compared to recently. USC fell off the map. Auburn was down. We usually do better.
The competition jump is staggering and relentless. There are just very few teams you will play that you will have the big talent advantages you were so used to in the Big 12. You have to show up every week because you can't just out talent people.
In Texas' case something that they really need to be concerned with is they have had very little success in recruiting OL/DL in the last few years, most of their talent is at the skill positions. The SEC is an extremely physical LOS league and that's going to be a real problem. OU is better balanced talent wise but to the original point they are still only upper middle of the SEC in terms of overall talent.
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:23 am to aggressor
Looking forward to the challenge 
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:24 am to aggressor
We develop players down in Norman. I know that concept is lost on most of you. Keep star-gazing at Rivals rankings from when kiddies were in HS tho.....
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:29 am to aggressor
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The competition jump is staggering and relentless. There are just very few teams you will play that you will have the big talent advantages you were so used to in the Big 12. You have to show up every week because you can't just out talent people
This is what I look forward to. Yeah it may take some time. But your last sentence is why the Stoops regime became stagnant. As long as we were out-developing Texas, we were golden. They got lazy there for the last 6-7 years. Especially can't afford to do that now.
We are getting athletes on D now, in what seems like forever. We're on the right path.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:30 am to CharlotteSooner
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We develop players down in Norman. I know that concept is lost on most of you. Keep star-gazing at Rivals rankings from when kiddies were in HS tho.....
K. Well I guess the Big 12 must dominate the SEC in NFL Draft picks then, right?
Last year it was 65 to 22. For the 1st Round it was 12-0. Overall NFL rosters is 339 to 131.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:34 am to CharlotteSooner
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We develop players down in Norman.
You get curb stomped when you go up against teams who recruit well and develop. See CFP record for reference.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:35 am to aggressor
I don't care what the rest of the big xii or the sec does "in da draft". I said Norman.
You look at easy metrics because they're easy to look at. Any mindless chode can stare at Rivals rankings of past classes and make assumptions.
You look at easy metrics because they're easy to look at. Any mindless chode can stare at Rivals rankings of past classes and make assumptions.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:37 am to LPTReb
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You get curb stomped when you go up against teams who recruit well and develop.
There's no 'development' happening in your top teams. They teach the scheme and pick the 4 or 5* that best executes their responsibilities within the scheme. It's nice work if you can get it.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:40 am to CharlotteSooner
Oh? You want to go team by team and you think that will be better? Look, OU can recruit. They can develop. The point is you are coming to a place where multiple folks are ahead of you, several are even with you, and the gap below you is not a canyon anymore outside of a couple of schools.
Don't worry though, you will find out soon enough.
Don't worry though, you will find out soon enough.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:40 am to CharlotteSooner
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There's no 'development' happening in your top teams.
Keep telling yourself that.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:42 am to Toroballistic
I will.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:46 am to aggressor
We aren't going to walk in here afraid of anybody aggot. Just get that out of your mind right now and stop fluffing your programs on the internet.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:46 am to CharlotteSooner
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We develop players down in Norman. I know that concept is lost on most of you. Keep star-gazing at Rivals rankings from when kiddies were in HS tho.....
Players on 2020 NFL rosters, by college
Alabama 56
Ohio State 50
LSU 41
Florida 39
Michigan 33
Georgia 32
Penn State 32
Miami (Fla.) 30
Clemson 29
Notre Dame 29
Oklahoma 29
Florida State 28
Iowa 28
Washington 28
Stanford 27
Texas A&M 27
Auburn 25
Texas 25
What do you develop them to do?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:49 am to CharlotteSooner
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We develop players down in Norman.
Is that what I witnessed in 2019? Development?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:50 am to aggressor
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In Texas' case something that they really need to be concerned with is they have had very little success in recruiting OL/DL in the last few years, most of their talent is at the skill positions.
Sounds like LSU's last coach.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:51 am to H2O Tiger
You witnessed Mike Stoops leftover roster of New Mexico State caliber players. Good for you that you got last dibs on those turds.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:52 am to CharlotteSooner
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There's no 'development' happening in your top teams. They teach the scheme and pick the 4 or 5* that best executes their responsibilities within the scheme.
Oh, boy........
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:52 am to CharlotteSooner
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You witnessed Mike Stoops leftover roster of New Mexico State caliber players. Good for you that you got last dibs on those turds.
You gave up 37 and 38 points to Iowa State and Kansas State last season.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:53 am to wadewilson
It’s funny that Texas still has a tougher SOS over the past 10 seasons than A&M despite A&M being in the SEC. So save the “tough”
schedule talk. You wouldn’t know.
schedule talk. You wouldn’t know.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:54 am to aggressor
You sound scared.
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