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I think it's time to move the Track and Foley,
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:42 pm
Watching Arkansas and MSU, I want a more consistent and over better baseball program.
Foley is nice but small. It's time to build a palace. I think the sport of college baseball is really growing.
Track needs an indoor facility and football needs that space.
Foley is nice but small. It's time to build a palace. I think the sport of college baseball is really growing.
Track needs an indoor facility and football needs that space.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 5:20 pm to lewis and herschel
I agree but keep the Foley Field name.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 5:28 pm to lewis and herschel
where exactly would you put our baseball field?
Foley is fine it just needs even the slightest hint of attention to be even more fine. Extend the left field seats, build an actually legit student seating area in right field/kudzu hill, put some bleachers in left field. I mean it really wouldn't take a whole lot to get foley up to speed but we've put it off for ooooohhhhh a few decades now. The location is fine though.
Foley is fine it just needs even the slightest hint of attention to be even more fine. Extend the left field seats, build an actually legit student seating area in right field/kudzu hill, put some bleachers in left field. I mean it really wouldn't take a whole lot to get foley up to speed but we've put it off for ooooohhhhh a few decades now. The location is fine though.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 5:35 pm to WG_Dawg
On upgrades, don’t forget to add the gold-plated mini dance floor 5 feet off home plate where players can twerk after home runs in clown world
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:54 pm to WG_Dawg
Keep putting perfume on a pig like steg and tell yourself it's great hum?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:00 pm to WG_Dawg
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Foley is fine it just needs even the slightest hint of attention to be even more fine. Extend the left field seats, build an actually legit student seating area in right field/kudzu hill, put some bleachers in left field. I mean it really wouldn't take a whole lot to get foley up to speed but we've put it off for ooooohhhhh a few decades now. The location is fine though.
All of this. We don’t need a 15k stadium. It’s a great walkable location on campus and from dining options in 5 Points. As fan experience goes, it just needs some basic expansion and attention from the AD. A lot of what makes it unique and fun is already in place, it just needs to be modernized
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:20 pm to tylerdurden24
Just like steg? We really are well behind the baseball arms race with our peers and way behind the west.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:21 pm to tylerdurden24
Just like steg? We really are well behind the baseball arms race with our peers and way behind the west.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:15 pm to lewis and herschel
Last I checked, Foley actually already has premium seating options, is an outdoor venue, and isn’t shared with 3 women’s programs. So no, not just like Steg.
There are plenty of ways to take an existing baseball stadium and build on it without completely relocating the program to where everyone (fans and students) would have to make the effort to drive and park off South Milledge. Alabama, Auburn, and Ole Miss have all done it recently and done it well.
There are plenty of ways to take an existing baseball stadium and build on it without completely relocating the program to where everyone (fans and students) would have to make the effort to drive and park off South Milledge. Alabama, Auburn, and Ole Miss have all done it recently and done it well.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:44 am to lewis and herschel
The facilities at MSU and Ark make Georgia's facility look like a neglected dump. Cold hard reality, never apologize for telling the truth.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:01 pm to bunkerhill
I sort of like the nostalgic shittiness of Foley.
I remember when they moved/upgraded the Nashville minor league team and everyone was so excited. But then the cold hard reality of expensive tickets and more expensive concessions have set in and now it kind of sucks. At the old stadium you could get in the game for $5 and get 2 for 1 PBRs from a one armed guy who was serving them out of a dirty cooler who I'm pretty sure had no affiliation with the stadium. Good times.
I remember when they moved/upgraded the Nashville minor league team and everyone was so excited. But then the cold hard reality of expensive tickets and more expensive concessions have set in and now it kind of sucks. At the old stadium you could get in the game for $5 and get 2 for 1 PBRs from a one armed guy who was serving them out of a dirty cooler who I'm pretty sure had no affiliation with the stadium. Good times.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:02 pm to tylerdurden24
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All of this. We don’t need a 15k stadium. It’s a great walkable location on campus and from dining options in 5 Points. As fan experience goes, it just needs some basic expansion and attention from the AD. A lot of what makes it unique and fun is already in place, it just needs to be modernized
This is the problem. They are trying to take away what makes Foley incredible, and thats Kudzu Hill. That needs to be the focus of the stadium like Miss St does with their lofts in left and Ole Miss and Arky with their crazy drunk students beyond the outfield wall.
Foley is special. It just needs direction, and about 25 million dollars.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:11 pm to devils1854
I was I. School during the kudzu hill days. They can plant kudzu on the walls in the outfield but it just doesn't work the way it is. Hell. south Carolina, Kentucky, and UF have way better facilities. The west has light years better.
Love to see a stadium on the backside of downtown on the 441 side to get rid of the slums and create a downtown experience.
I didn't even think 5 points dining was much of A thing anymore other than fine dining off of milledge.
Love to see a stadium on the backside of downtown on the 441 side to get rid of the slums and create a downtown experience.
I didn't even think 5 points dining was much of A thing anymore other than fine dining off of milledge.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:14 pm to bunkerhill
Both MSU and Arkansas can also consistently rely on 15k to show up for most SEC series and at least half that for non-con games. Part of that is winning culture but a big part is there is nothing else going on in either area of those states come Spring.
I’ve been doing the season thread for baseball (nevermind been going to games at Foley) for long enough to know that we can draw a crowd some weekends and even gain some fair weather support some years but it’s not ever going to match the levels of MSU and Arkansas. And honestly, that’s fine. We can expand Foley to fit more people but still not break 10k and provide a great home field advantage.
Just don’t do the following:
1.) make an absolute hodge podged mess like Tennessee’s dump of a stadium. What a poorly executed pile of shite that place ended up being.
2.) Overestimate fan interest and attendance by relocating a brand new, bigger stadium and have nobody show up to it (Florida and Kentucky made this mistake)
What needs to happen:
1. Leverage the existence of the houses atop Kudzu Hill and make right field into the designated student seating area (Ole Miss and Alabama have each done this). Have it wrap around from the right foul pole to the right of the batters eye and build seating tiers up the hill for people to bring chairs and coolers
2. Make an MSU style big scoreboard to put out in left center from dead right where it currently is.
3. Expand the existing stadium down both lines and relocate the visitors bullpen to behind the left field wall. If concerned about attendance, make the expansion a standing room only platform for non-con with the ability to add bleachers for conference slate and postseason
4. If you really want to get crazy, build a baseball development building in left field where the current parking lot is. IMO this is a pipe dream but a needed one for a number of reasons
I’ve been doing the season thread for baseball (nevermind been going to games at Foley) for long enough to know that we can draw a crowd some weekends and even gain some fair weather support some years but it’s not ever going to match the levels of MSU and Arkansas. And honestly, that’s fine. We can expand Foley to fit more people but still not break 10k and provide a great home field advantage.
Just don’t do the following:
1.) make an absolute hodge podged mess like Tennessee’s dump of a stadium. What a poorly executed pile of shite that place ended up being.
2.) Overestimate fan interest and attendance by relocating a brand new, bigger stadium and have nobody show up to it (Florida and Kentucky made this mistake)
What needs to happen:
1. Leverage the existence of the houses atop Kudzu Hill and make right field into the designated student seating area (Ole Miss and Alabama have each done this). Have it wrap around from the right foul pole to the right of the batters eye and build seating tiers up the hill for people to bring chairs and coolers
2. Make an MSU style big scoreboard to put out in left center from dead right where it currently is.
3. Expand the existing stadium down both lines and relocate the visitors bullpen to behind the left field wall. If concerned about attendance, make the expansion a standing room only platform for non-con with the ability to add bleachers for conference slate and postseason
4. If you really want to get crazy, build a baseball development building in left field where the current parking lot is. IMO this is a pipe dream but a needed one for a number of reasons
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:19 pm to lewis and herschel
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I was I. School during the kudzu hill days. They can plant kudzu on the walls in the outfield but it just doesn't work the way it is. Hell. south Carolina, Kentucky, and UF have way better facilities. The west has light years better.
It’s still there and still kicks arse. It’s just not as dingy as it used to be (which to Finley’s point has robbed it of some of its charm) and they planted fricking trees at the top so it blocks the view of the houses come late Spring. Still draws a big crowd up there, though.
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Love to see a stadium on the backside of downtown on the 441 side to get rid of the slums and create a downtown experience.
Athens has a big housing issue at the moment so this won’t ever happen. Nice thought but not realistic or feasible.
quote:5 points has taken off over the last 10 years. Lot of really nice indoor/outdoor eating and drinking spots. When we visit, I actually now prefer 5 points to downtown as lunch/dinner goes. Off the top of my head, they have El Barrio, The Pine, Marker 7, Sakura, Fully Loaded Pizza, Royal Peasant, LRG Provisions, Cali N Tito’s, Grindhouse, and Dinner Party (formerly Donna Changs)
I didn't even think 5 points dining was much of A thing anymore other than fine dining off of milledge.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:01 pm to tylerdurden24
I think MLB in Georgia is about to shrink and I would way rather support UGA than any pro baseball at any level. frick mlb for screwing all the people of Georgia and the kids who lost the all-star game experience.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:33 pm to lewis and herschel
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I think MLB in Georgia is about to shrink
Nah. People have a fair reason to be pissed at the MLB but that doesn’t mean they’ll take it out on the Braves (who also got screwed). The Battery and Truist are way too well set up for families, teens, and young professionals to each be able to spend a whole day at a game and have a good time doing it; people aren’t going to suddenly start ignoring a good time just because they’re mad at the MLB (they may stop watching non-Braves games if they even did before but that’s obviously irrelevant to the issue of Georgia baseball).
Target audience for the Diamond Dawgs needs to be the students first and then the folks in Jefferson, Madison, Hartwell, Monroe, etc. Who is within easy driving distance for a 3 game series and, more importantly, how can they show students a good time so they develop a nostalgia factor for Spring games (like many of us seem to have developed on Kudzu Hill)? If you hook those groups, the crowds from metro ATL will continue to trickle in more consistently
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:37 pm to tylerdurden24
Fans have had no problem ignoring the NFL....
Students are obviously first but the Northern half of Atlanta is also very important.
Braves are losers anyways. Hell, they even choked away the all-star game....in braves style.
Students are obviously first but the Northern half of Atlanta is also very important.
Braves are losers anyways. Hell, they even choked away the all-star game....in braves style.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:46 pm to lewis and herschel
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Fans have had no problem ignoring the NFL....
The NFL also has no problem isolating some of its fans, unlike the MLB. NFL is too big to fail and they know it; white guys in their 40s are big mad? That’s fine, the 20-30 age group will more than make up for their lost viewership (and even then, the people who stop going to games will still tune in some Sundays out of sheer boredom and habit). The MLB by comparison has a much less corporatized feel and has a stronger sense of regionalism literally built into its parks (whereas NFL stadiums and teams are movable and adaptable to a new location and event by design). They’re not nearly as powerful as the NFL but they also have some strengths the NFL doesn’t.
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Students are obviously first but the Northern half of Atlanta is also very important.
Not saying they’re not but with college baseball, how likely are you to get folks from metro ATL to buy season tickets and/or drive 3 straight days or stay in town for two nights to watch a weekend SEC series? Enthusiasm from those folks matters but unlike football or even basketball, they’re not going to consistently fill your stadium (not unless/until Georgia baseball becomes a can’t miss national power).
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:51 pm to tylerdurden24
Younger crowd could careless, the NFL has bit the hand that feeds it. Younger generation digs soccer and axe throwing, most don't even have cable accept for internet to stream.
Baseball, is actually whiter and wealthier han ever with all the travel ball and expense. The diversity seems to come from latin America these days....
Baseball, is actually whiter and wealthier han ever with all the travel ball and expense. The diversity seems to come from latin America these days....
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