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re: NIL saga: AGs of Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, SC file brief in support of NCAA
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:39 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:39 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
How about just let players go pro at whatever age the pros are willing to draft? Otherwise, take the education as your compensation.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:12 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:You're out of your fricking mind. There will be no college football if they add a salary cap. That's professionalism - a competitor/supplier for the NFL for that purpose only. Have you forgotten there are 80,000 college football players and only a few hundred make it to the pros each year? THere will be no college football and ALL non-revenue sports will be cut. You are an idiot.
Pay the players. If the NCAA is worried about it getting out of hand, create a framework and cap the benefits.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:33 pm to DawgsLife
How many 5 stars play in Chicago?
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:41 pm to paperwasp
This is not even close to what happened.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:42 pm to GulfCoastOutlaw
Since the players are getting paid,will they have to pay for their own scholarships now?
If you are getting paid to play then you should pay for your schooling and training. Seems fair.
If you are getting paid to play then you should pay for your schooling and training. Seems fair.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:50 pm to lsufball19
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It doesn't really matter if you think the NCAA has a good reason. They're a private non-profit organizatio
This status is very dubious because of this
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Every NCAA bylaw is voted on by the member schools.
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For the federal government to tell any private organization what they can and can't do is a major overstep
The public institutions that comprise the NCAA are not private. The argument that public institutions can hide under private organizations like the NCAA and even the SEC has always been shaky and has only held up this long due to not being sufficiently legally challenged.
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A decision forcing them to let athletes get paid sets a dangerous precedent for the government to dictate the bylaws of other private businesses
You are a moron. This court can’t create sweeping precedent like you describe in the first place. The only reason this decision can even affect all of college sports is due to the NCAA being the only player in town.
Even if this were the supreme court’s decision, it wouldn’t logically set the precedent you describe. You are just regurgitating nonsense.
The NCAA is a fricking stupid organization that was always going to collapse due to it’s own legally questionable control over public institutions.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:57 pm to My2Bits
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Since the players are getting paid,will they have to pay for their own scholarships now?
Plenty of students get paid in college and still get scholarships. It’s just not allowed for athletes.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:59 pm to beachreb61
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How about just let players go pro at whatever age the pros are willing to draft? Otherwise, take the education as your compensation
Because the current rules are beneficial to the NFL.
The NCAA is a free, legally disconnected developmental league for the for-profit NFL.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 9:33 pm to beachreb61
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How about just let players go pro at whatever age the pros are willing to draft? Otherwise, take the education as your compensation.
that would seem like a better logical argument for Congress to entertain...try to pass a bill that says the NFL's years removed from high school requirement is a discriminatory practice and push to modify the ADEA to include all ages and not just for those over the age of 40
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/11/21 at 9:36 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Oh look, it's the village contrarian with terrible takes again
Posted on 2/12/21 at 5:37 am to GulfCoastOutlaw
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How many 5 stars play in Chicago?
How many get paid thousands of dollars with promises of possibly millions due to being in a media center?
You are making my point for me. No, there are none, because they have not been offered a lot of money being in a major media center. I think that was my whole point. The players will follow the money. Are you making the argument that the players will NOT go to a school that can offer them money?
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:46 am to lsufball19
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try to pass a bill that says the NFL's years removed from high school requirement is a discriminatory practice
I think there's something to be said for this.
If a high school athlete wants to go to college and assume that a scholarship and the ancillary benefits are sufficient compensation, they can do so.
If the NFL had a developmental league similar to the NBA G League, high school players would also have the option to go professional directly and get paid immediately, regardless of whether or not they were physically ready to compete - it would be their choice.
We're probably too far along in the NIL process at this point, but maybe the changes need to be on the NFL side and not in college, since they're essentially using the NCAA as a free developmental league already.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:58 am to paperwasp
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If the NFL had a developmental league similar to the NBA G League, high school players would also have the option to go professional directly and get paid immediately, regardless of whether or not they were physically ready to compete - it would be their choice.
How does the NFL go about regulating greed? Can college football really keep big business out of the player's newfound wealth? We just got an ugly look at the underbelly of college basketball and AAU with big sneaker and apparel companies buying off head coaches and players. That stuff was and is trickling down to youth basketball camps all over this country.
How do the powers that be regulate greed through this new era of economic enlightenment?
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:59 am to PlateJohnsonIII
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The NCAA is a free, legally disconnected developmental league for the for-profit NFL.
That is literally what all of college is. It is a training ground for future professions.
Some of you guys are really obtuse.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:06 am to rockiee
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Everyone hates a lawyer until they need one
90% of lawyers give the rest of them a bad name
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:29 am to bamameister
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How does the NFL go about regulating greed?
Well, that's a good point.
Even with NFL intervention, the reality is that it probably wouldn't change the darker aspects of college football that we know to already exist.
It's probably also a reality that the NFL really has no motivation to assist the existing college model in any way, since they would essentially only be harming their bottom line to do so.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:38 am to Hailstate15
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Explain this to me like I’m a Mississippi State fan
Leftist 9th circuit court says NCAA can’t restrict benefits to college athletes
Opens the door for paying players
Nobody was allowed a voice and one court is trying to ruin it for everyone
NCAA opposes it. AGs in red states agree with NCAA.
If Supreme Court upholds 9th circuit ruling it will cost universities a ton of money in the athletic Dept leading to the cancelling of non revenue sports so they can pay players in revenue generating sports.
And what is not mentioned is no women sports generate revenue and you’d run into title IX issues if you only had men’s basketball and football.
So essentially say bye bye to college sports if this stands. Which of course is the ultimate goal of the left
Posted on 2/12/21 at 1:17 pm to beachreb61
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How about just let players go pro at whatever age the pros are willing to draft?
Letting players go straight from high school to the NBA had disastrous effects on basketball and its popularity.
Player recognition and knowing you are always watching the best of the best at every level is one of the biggest driving forces behind the success of football.
THere is a way to compensate and maintain fair play across all levels of football, BUT it will take concessions from both those running the sport and more importantly the players - and there is no way that's happening in the current climate.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 1:52 pm to paperwasp
They'll eventually get paid. You can only delay it so long. The amateurism has been gone for a long time.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:04 pm to lsufball19
How many athletic programs under the NCAA operate in the black every year?
I'd venture to say less than 25% of NCAA programs actually make money in athletics.
I'd venture to say less than 25% of NCAA programs actually make money in athletics.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 2:23 pm
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