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Sam Pittman expectations

Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:05 pm
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:05 pm
What are your expectations for Sam Pittman going forward?
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:30 pm to
Winning seasons

The ability to have a successful PAT
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Winning seasons

Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
1874 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:38 pm to
Recruit more than three 4* players in a class.

In the current class of 20 commits that’s all he has.

I don’t care which way you look at it - competitive offers, measurables, HS competition level...etc.
Continue being average there and you’ll have a nice, respectful average team in an above-average conference.

Pittman was lauded as a recruiter coming in.
Let’s see it.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:40 pm to
I expect 6-6 or 7-5 to be the best years and 4-8/5-7 to be the typical down years. Trips to the liberty and music city bowls as the norm.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:43 pm to
Dear diary.

We suck
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:48 pm to
I don't expect much from someone that has zero past head coaching experience.

6-6 and 7-5 is still much better than 2-10.

Sam can accomplish that.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:52 pm to
Great. 3.5 million/year bargain.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:55 pm to
That isn't so bad. At least we don't owe 75 million.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:56 pm to
I am not understanding everyone's attitude with this season.
Consider the following.

We were the absolute laughing stock of the SEC the last 3-5 years overall. We hired a career Oline coach as HC, and were laughed at even more when we could have had Leach, or Kiffin, or Drink, or....

We then conversely beat 3 SEC teams in the Career Oline Coaches 1st season which was a shock to all of the world.

What do I expect, ... To be competitive against all teams other than Bama year in and year out, to have an uptick in recruiting if/when visits are allowed once more, to field a competent staff.

He will take the time Bert was most successful, without the head scratching losses and win 9-10 in the next 3 years. I really think the loss today, and the loss against LSU have clouded the direction that a 1st year coach is heading, during a covid year, against an all SEC schedule, ... Shaking my head!

It isn't all doom and gloom folks, give him a little time, damn!
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:01 pm to
Its a perfect example of where we are now compared to the last two years.

It kind of just proves how much Sam has moved the program from 0-16.
Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
1874 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:03 pm to
Hunter Cashachek went with the cheap feel-good story.

I don’t care who it is - Arkansas fans will continue to display increased levels of apathy as long as Arkansas football is a breather for the programs that matter.

I fricking hate Ole Miss but I’ll give them one thing - at least they tried being relevant in recent memory.
Recruit like you mean it for a change.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:12 pm to
I really do like Sam but he isn't going to average 9/10 wins a year here.

The only coach that came close here was Bobby and he was a great game day manager and outcoached his competition. But even he had a weakness as a coach.

He is the guy that will get us bowling again and that is it. Then he will retire and Arkansas will be in a better position to take another step up in the win category.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:22 pm to
It is fair after 30 years in the SEC to question Arkansas if they really do care a bout winning.

The evidence says no.
Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
1874 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:25 pm to
Dude- Petrino's weakness as a coach at Arkansas was telling Jeff Ego Long to frick off.

If you think Petrino was the first coach to bang a staffer or if that was even the first time Petrino had banged a staffer... just don't.

Difference is programs that have glossed over those road-bumps and those that have let them become large, gaping fricking craters for your program to fall into.


Look past Petrino and Pittman... even look past Long and Yurachek.
Who is at the higher-levels of decision-making in regards to U of A athletics, and how have they let wallowing mediocrity become the norm and the national expectation?

Start naming names there, because it's that level of leadership that has failed Arkansas football fans.
Question is do you think they care? Why bother 'paying' for a team that sells out the stadium? That's just hard for a program in Arkansas so far from the conference epicenter... much easier to just take the SEC check, throw the fans some nice nuggets with beer and club seating from time to time... there you go.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

It is fair after 30 years in the SEC to question Arkansas if they really do care a bout winning. 

The evidence says no.



Lol WHAT

If we didn't care about winning Chad - or even Bert - would still be here with Jeff Long as AD.

Don't overreact to one loss like you're on HV. It's not a good look.

All 3 of our major programs are looking great or on the upswing. Take a step back and a breather if you're freaking out right now, when there's NO reason to whatsoever.

ETA - Bitched Tusky can take note too
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
1874 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:31 pm to
That doesn't say shite about Arkansas caring about winning.

It does say Arkansas cares about being flat-out embarrassing.

It was embarrassing enough having all those names as long as we did.

Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:44 pm to
Bobby's weakness was having a weak coaching staff that had no ace recruiters. He could coach them up but didn't have the home visit charisma like Saban to land big name recruits. He wouldn't be able to sustain 10 wins a year.

The firing situation was handled poorly and most schools would punish him but not outright fire him.

Yes that is the problem is those at the top. As long as they make poor decision after poor decision then a program is in a hamster wheel.

But I believe deep down that Arkansas just doesn't want it bad enough and 30 years of evidence in the SEC will show that nothing is new under the sun in Fayetteville.

I have nothing against the Sam Pittman hire but unless history stops repeating itself then nothing will change with razorback football.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
1874 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:48 pm to
We'll never know what Petrino could or could not have sustained... what weaknesses that team had were on the defensive side of the ball.
He had fired the DC and hired a guy to replace him.

It's comfortable to say his results would have dropped off, because that somehow makes the ensuing gross ineptitude more palatable for some people.


It's as close Arkansas has come to having a no-excuses, frick-you unapologetic winner since Nolan.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41424 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:52 pm to
What would you recommend? Completely serious. I don’t want to go to the Big 12 but I honestly don’t know what we could do to compete at a high level regularly now that the SEC has taken our monetary advantage off the table when it comes to Ole Miss, State, Mizzou, SC and Kentucky. We’re always going to be limited recruiting due to location but, when they all had half as much money as us and shitfacilities, we were on a different level than those schools. I can’t imagine it’s a coincidence that our mediocrity coincided with the floodgates opening with money for all schools in the SEC.
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