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re: NCAA coronavirus advisory panel details how fan-free college football games are likely

Posted on 5/17/20 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 5:35 pm to
How are they going to have games if campuses are closed at that point?
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 5:38 pm to
There is way too much incentive for hospitals to rule the cause of death as Covid-19 to get an accurate number of deaths. I don’t understand why people don’t get that
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33056 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 5:40 pm to
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There is way too much incentive for hospitals to rule the cause of death as Covid-19 to get an accurate number of deaths. I don’t understand why people don’t get that


Fraud likely isn’t on a large scale like right wing nuts claim.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73009 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 6:07 pm to
Just pump in some crowd noise and create a virtual crowd. It’s the future of sports anyway
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 6:14 pm to
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Fraud likely isn’t on a large scale like right wing nuts claim.


What would be classified as fraud?

Would the 20% of NY cases where they didn't even test and just assumed it fall under that category?

If not, then what would?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33056 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 7:33 pm to
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Would the 20% of NY cases where they didn't even test and just assumed it fall under that category?


You think it’s just a coincidence of drastically increased mortality during a covid outbreak in New York. Has nothing to do with covid. Of course you do.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 7:43 pm to
Hospitals get paid a lot of $$$ for Covid-19 deaths. Especially ones that ran at a $30 million deficit daily for over a month.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9203 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 7:49 pm to
What is it going to take for people to understand that this thing wasnt that big of a deal.
Posted by mattfromnj
New Jersey
Member since Mar 2020
572 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 7:50 pm to
My understanding has always been that colleges need ticket sales to survive as a program. Outside of the biggest schools they don't make that much from TV. You could even see AAC caliber teams losing millions playing without fans. FCS, Division II and Division III would cease to exist.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 7:57 pm to
Oh no! How will aTm be able to do their gay little swaying thing now? I'm sure there will be spaces in between fans.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 7:58 pm to
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What is it going to take for people to understand that this thing wasnt that big of a deal.



A different president.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 8:12 pm to
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You think it’s just a coincidence of drastically increased mortality during a covid outbreak in New York. Has nothing to do with covid. Of course you do.


You didn't answer the question. I'm asking you what is considered fraud since these deaths were claimed without proof.

20% isn't an insignificant amount.

Averages don't mean it's that amount year after year. Some years are higher, some years it's lower.


Posted by thePeakyPrince
Bernie Sanders 4 prez
Member since Jan 2016
142 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 8:27 pm to
The defensiveness in this thread is unreal

It's crazy how clear the political divide is on this issue. Republicans against, democrats for. No one in this thread seems to have stepped out of that
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33056 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 8:40 pm to
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You didn't answer the question. I'm asking you what is considered fraud since these deaths were claimed without proof.


And you avoided the point I made. It’s not a coincidence. Most of those deaths are likely attributable to covid. It’s well above the average of normal.

Fraud would be listing covid as a COD without symptoms/autopsy analysis/positive tests confirming so. I highly doubt there is 20% of that happening as you claim. Probably much lower and thus not worth discussing. I also imagine there are plenty that are being ignored in red states.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33056 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 8:40 pm to
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What is it going to take for people to understand that this thing wasnt that big of a deal.


The same amount of deaths as swine flu.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 8:47 pm to
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And you avoided the point I made. It’s not a coincidence. Most of those deaths are likely attributable to covid. It’s well above the average of normal.

Fraud would be listing covid as a COD without symptoms/autopsy analysis/positive tests confirming so. I highly doubt there is 20% of that happening as you claim. Probably much lower and thus not worth discussing. I also imagine there are plenty that are being ignored in red states.


About 5k deaths were added without a known cause of death out of 25k. That's 20%.

And according to your own description of fraud, it fits. No symptoms, no autopsy and no positive test.

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I also imagine there are plenty that are being ignored in red states.


Based on what? I gave you actual stats.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 8:49 pm
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9203 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 8:47 pm to
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A different president

How so? He never made it out to be a big deal and didnt want to shut down the economy.
Are you referring to the whole anti-Trump movement where everything has to be the opposite of what aligns with Trump?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 8:47 pm to
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Are you referring to the whole anti-Trump movement where everything has to be the opposite of what aligns with Trump?


Yes
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33056 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:36 pm to
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About 5k deaths were added without a known cause of death out of 25k. That's 20%.


Ok, let’s see the link making this claim that a massive increase in deaths is just a coincidence and is totally unrelated to the covid outbreak happening right outside the door.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33056 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Based on what? I gave you actual stats.


Based on red states not testing people and thus claiming covid wasn’t part of the COD. All just a coincidence.
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