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Mizzou players to get paid?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:16 am
Barely said in Rock Nation, I guess the Missouri legislature is looking at passing a law to pay Mizzou athletics:
Rock Nation paragraph:
Here’s a fun bit of reporting: Kurt Erickson at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the lack of speed in the NCAA sanctions case could lead to some traction for amateur athlete pay in Jefferson City.
That would be a giant slap in the face to the NCAA.
I just found this.
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Rock Nation paragraph:
Here’s a fun bit of reporting: Kurt Erickson at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the lack of speed in the NCAA sanctions case could lead to some traction for amateur athlete pay in Jefferson City.
That would be a giant slap in the face to the NCAA.
I just found this.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 10:20 am
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:32 am to Saltonking44
I’m sure Caleb would like to stick it to the NCAA on this. He’ll probably get it through with some work.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:36 am to the808bass
Would be a nice FU to send them
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:09 pm to KCM0Tiger
What do we really know, they could be getting paid already.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:34 pm to Saltonking44
It's not a legislative thing, its an NCAA thing. Don't know why people don't seem to understand that. NCAA rules & regulations are all that matter. Paying of players would violate Title IX if every sport is not payed equally. IE Backup goalie in womens Soccer=Star QB for Football. If you think that is sustainable and works within the model of amateur athletics, then it will happen. I personally don't think it will work. I just wish people would stop using football/basketball as examples for being paid. Try making the argument with Olympic sports, and you'll have a better time convincing people. The reality is that basketball/football make money so other programs like Wrestling and Swimming can exist. (and their scholarships/etc.)
Edit: NCAA still sucks, and are horrendously bad enforcement. They would be wise to nip this in the bud and revamp some of their rules.
Edit: NCAA still sucks, and are horrendously bad enforcement. They would be wise to nip this in the bud and revamp some of their rules.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:50 pm to TigerAndBadger
Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:07 pm to the808bass
So, that sounds like Joe Car dealer can have Jimmy Stud pose for pictures by his cars...and pay him 20K or so for his "likeness?"
This could get interesting
This could get interesting
Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:51 pm to TigerAndBadger
The only way it works is a conference clearinghouse that controls the funds. ABC car dealership pays the SEC clearinghouse and all funds are distributed equally among all SEC athletes. It's the only way to satisfy Title 9.
This is the exact way NCAA licensing funds are distributed to schools. I don't pay every school to make tshirts, I pay a clearinghouse 100k, and I can make tshirts of all schools except those that demand I deal with them directly ie Bama, LSU, Ohio State.
This is the exact way NCAA licensing funds are distributed to schools. I don't pay every school to make tshirts, I pay a clearinghouse 100k, and I can make tshirts of all schools except those that demand I deal with them directly ie Bama, LSU, Ohio State.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:54 pm to Literalist
T&B, this is about individual players getting paid by outside sources for Name/image/likeness. The school has nothing to do with this, thus Title IX does not apply.
IE Nike pays the kid, not MU. Or Joe car dealership, as has been said.
And this is not about football. Hot shot female tennis player wants to make money of her own N/I/L? Go right ahead, hire an agent, and explore your options. Think of the female golf students with their pictures all over the internet.
This is telling the NCAA to relinquish control of the students earning options off campus.
IE Nike pays the kid, not MU. Or Joe car dealership, as has been said.
And this is not about football. Hot shot female tennis player wants to make money of her own N/I/L? Go right ahead, hire an agent, and explore your options. Think of the female golf students with their pictures all over the internet.
This is telling the NCAA to relinquish control of the students earning options off campus.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:14 pm to surgicalvenom
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The only way it works is a conference clearinghouse that controls the funds. ABC car dealership pays the SEC clearinghouse and all funds are distributed equally among all SEC athletes. It's the only way to satisfy Title 9.
I doubt that’s how it would work.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:21 pm to Drydock
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T&B, this is about individual players getting paid by outside sources for Name/image/likeness
Which isn't illegal. Which of course means states are unnecessarily trying to get involved. It is strictly an NCAA rules thing. I believe people are getting confused when they see "state legislatures say players can get paid" and think that there was some sort of law saying they couldn't; which there is not.
Edit: Of course NCAA doesn't want to go to court. But, the premise is incorrect in my opinion. It isn't because they believe they would lose. (That would effectively disallow any organization from having rules regarding suspensions, a la NFL drug policy, etc.; that isn't happening) It would just be terrible PR, and of course the potential of other cruddy things coming to light.
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The school has nothing to do with this, thus Title IX does not apply.
It certainly muddies the water of amateurism vs professionalism. College sports are built and dependent upon the amateur model.
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This is telling the NCAA to relinquish control of the students earning options off campus
I just happen to think that is opening pandora's box. Would essentially be admitting that fairness (small or large institutions) is no longer a crucial component.
Ultimately, the few athletes that would actually benefit (stars of money sports mostly) will do so at the expense of non-revenue sport athletes. If, using your example, Nike starts directly paying specific athletes, they will likely lower sponsorship dollars to the University programs. IE taking an individual valuable entity out of product (program) will devalue the total product.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:26 pm to TigerAndBadger
Large multinational corporations aren’t going to be the primary drivers, IMO.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:35 pm to the808bass
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Large multinational corporations aren’t going to be the primary drivers, IMO.
I just see a litany of issues. Public vs Private schools and reporting money. Discerning likeness payments vs recruiting bribes. LA/NY markets vs tiny college town opportunities.
What I can see, is NCAA Football coming back to consoles baby! That is an easy one, each player gets $100 for their likeness in the game. From EA, to University, to player. The rest, that gets complicated.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:49 pm to TigerAndBadger
Of course there’s a litany of issues. But the NCAA has opened the door by looking the other way when it’s obvious the players are getting paid, and when a school like North Carolina basically says it’s not against our policies for students to cheat and then The NCAA preaching from their sanctimonious high horse when a B level school gets caught with a rogue tutor playing with grades.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:50 pm to TigerAndBadger
Capitalism is Pandora's Box. No Doubt
Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:50 pm to TigerAndBadger
KCMO I could not have said it better
"Would be a nice FU to send them"
Yeah and add some icing allow football to get a total of 90 Scholarships on file.
"Would be a nice FU to send them"
Yeah and add some icing allow football to get a total of 90 Scholarships on file.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 6:38 pm to Saltonking44
Legislatures passing such laws is more about appeasing their base than anything else. Correct me if I'm wrong, but schools voluntarily join the NCAA and as such have to abide by the rules set forth by the NCAA, regardless of what some podunk politician wants to say.
Having said that, I don't see any Title IX issues personally with allowing players to be paid for their likeness. The gal on the tennis team can get paid just as well as the QB. At least the opportunity is theoretically there.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I suspect the rich get richer.
Having said that, I don't see any Title IX issues personally with allowing players to be paid for their likeness. The gal on the tennis team can get paid just as well as the QB. At least the opportunity is theoretically there.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I suspect the rich get richer.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 6:51 pm to Literalist
OK, I'll put my money where my mouth is:
An open offer to new commits: I'll give each of you two crisp, one dollar bills for an autographed photo.
You're welcome.
An open offer to new commits: I'll give each of you two crisp, one dollar bills for an autographed photo.
You're welcome.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 6:54 pm to reedus23
The NCAA is going to get left behind on this sooner or later. Should no progress be made, the power 5 may decide that to voluntarily comply with an increasingly irrelevant/irrational organization is no longer in their best interest.
The "amateur model" died decades ago. The current model is graft and corruption covered over by thin veneer of NCAA pomposity.
The "amateur model" died decades ago. The current model is graft and corruption covered over by thin veneer of NCAA pomposity.
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:33 pm to Drydock
I regret I have only one upvote to give
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