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Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:11 pm
A little known secret - the blacknblus’ are from Blue Springs, and so far my daughter has applied to the following in-state schools:
Rockhurst (being considered for full ride)
UMKC (being considered for full ride)
Mizzou (Curators Scholarship - $4,500 year)
Missouri State (accepted — no aid offered yet)
Truman State (accepted - 4 k scholarship)
SLU (submitted to purgatory)
(No - we’re not Catholic)
Did any of you go to (or are going to) one of the schools on the list? Are there other schools you would add? My daughter is pretty opposed to S&T (I have no clue why), and would rather go out of State ($$$), so I think we need to work with what we have.
She plans on majoring in Biology (if that matters). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Rockhurst (being considered for full ride)
UMKC (being considered for full ride)
Mizzou (Curators Scholarship - $4,500 year)
Missouri State (accepted — no aid offered yet)
Truman State (accepted - 4 k scholarship)
SLU (submitted to purgatory)
(No - we’re not Catholic)
Did any of you go to (or are going to) one of the schools on the list? Are there other schools you would add? My daughter is pretty opposed to S&T (I have no clue why), and would rather go out of State ($$$), so I think we need to work with what we have.
She plans on majoring in Biology (if that matters). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:17 pm to blacknblu
What does she want to do?
My daughter is at UMKC. I went to Mizzou.
My daughter is at UMKC. I went to Mizzou.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:22 pm to blacknblu
Keep applying for scholarships. Mizzou has over 100k worth of scholarship money every year that goes unclaimed.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:29 pm to blacknblu
What does she think she wants to do?
Doctor - UMKC or MU
Teaching - Truman
I attended both MSU and MU. My experience says MU Fin Aid will find a lot more help for your daughter.
Only reason to think about S&T is if she wants to be an engineer. That's where my son is going.
Doctor - UMKC or MU
Teaching - Truman
I attended both MSU and MU. My experience says MU Fin Aid will find a lot more help for your daughter.
Only reason to think about S&T is if she wants to be an engineer. That's where my son is going.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:53 pm to blacknblu
If she actually wants to go the med school route than what Bass says is correct. SLU has had some issues in the recent past.
MU has a little more prestige over UMKC but only because of the research dollars. WashU is head & shoulders above all.
If she just wants to major in Bio than don't go to a non-research school (Truman, MoState, Rockhurst). Again MU is held in higher regards but its goes back to go with where offers more.
Also, not that you asked but I wouldn't just go for a straight Bio degree go into one of the specialities (BioChem, bioengineering, molecular, etc) so as to not limit yourself later in your career.
I got my undergrad and grad degree (BioChem) from Mizzou and then went to a B1G school for post-doc and the programs were very comparable from the class work aspect. The differentiator is the ungodly amount of research dollars they bring in.
Eta: actually I don't know anything about Rockhurst so ignore what I said there.
MU has a little more prestige over UMKC but only because of the research dollars. WashU is head & shoulders above all.
If she just wants to major in Bio than don't go to a non-research school (Truman, MoState, Rockhurst). Again MU is held in higher regards but its goes back to go with where offers more.
Also, not that you asked but I wouldn't just go for a straight Bio degree go into one of the specialities (BioChem, bioengineering, molecular, etc) so as to not limit yourself later in your career.
I got my undergrad and grad degree (BioChem) from Mizzou and then went to a B1G school for post-doc and the programs were very comparable from the class work aspect. The differentiator is the ungodly amount of research dollars they bring in.
Eta: actually I don't know anything about Rockhurst so ignore what I said there.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:52 am to blacknblu
One last thing, my daughter went to a medical summer camp at Mizzou while she was still in HS. That really helped her in her decision making process that she wanted to be a doctor. Not sure what options a Senior would have, but it might be worth checking out for her.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:35 am to blacknblu
I got a friend that went through Mizzou medical. There was a class that was supposed to fail like half the students when she went there, about a decade ago. If I recall right it was in the undergrad part but advisors said a lot of students transfer that class in to avoid the MU prestige culling. IDK if it is like that anymore and it could have been a lie
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:21 pm to blacknblu
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Did any of you go to (or are going to) one of the schools on the list?
Yes. Graduated from Mizzou. Also considered Washington University, Missouri State, Truman State, and UMKC.
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Are there other schools you would add?
Washington University is the elite academic institution in the state so I'd recommend looking into it if possible.
To be honest, not sure which is best for biology.
My take on the schools I know at least something about:
Mizzou is easily the best social atmosphere. You'll get the true "college experience" going there. Overall, the academics are average for a large state school. Depending on the program, they have some above average to excellent academics. In my biased opinion, Mizzou offers the most rewarding overall 4 year experience. However, Mizzou will offer the least amount of scholarship $$$ out of all the options, regardless of your accolades.
Washington University is the elite academic school in the state/region and is usually top 40 nationally. Acceptance standards are high and you must also go to STL for an admissions interview as well. It's private so will be expensive, but I'm unfamiliar with potential scholarship assistance. A degree from this school carries weight.
Missouri State is Mizzou-lite. It's a large school (23k+) with D1 athletics, but is definitely a mid-major university that is a tier or two below Mizzou. I personally really liked their campus, and Springfield is a nice town/city. Academics are not bad, but they are probably below all others on this list. They will be more apt to giving scholarship $$$ than Mizzou though.
Truman State is a very good regional academic school. It's not on WashU's level by any means, but for Missouri and the immediately surrounding states, it has very good academics. That being said, the campus is small and pretty boring in my opinion. Kirksville is the same. This might be the worst "college experience" on the list. Imagine a library full of kids studying on a Saturday night, and that's Truman. But if all you want is good academics, this is a great choice.
UMKC is part of the MU system. It holds a good reputation in Kansas City, but I don't think the outside world thinks much of it. I would compare their academics to Mizzou, which makes sense as there is a lot of collaboration between the two schools depending on the field of study. Overall average for a state school, but they have certain programs that are very good. Pharmacy and 6 year med program are two of those. Campus is decent, and decidedly more urban than the rest.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:16 am to blacknblu
As a current senior in college with friends at most of these universities, I feel like I have a pretty good idea.
Rockhurst - I know very little
UMKC - If your daughter wants to go into the medical field this is a GREAT option, any other program is the ugly stepchild of the UM System. One of my friends did her first 4 at MU and is going to finish up at UMKC.
Mizzou - As a current student I'm clearly biased... BUT, a degree from MU will be known anywhere you go - and the alumni network is huge. All of my friends from Highschool that attend other universities constantly beg to come up and visit (for literally ANY reason, especially on game days). Out of in-state schools, MU has the best experience with plenty of opportunities for networking.
Missouri State - This is the school where most of my friends that chose not to attend MU ended up. I like Springfield, but I'm glad I didn't go to school there... a few of my friends have told me that they wish they chose MU over State. All in all, id say this is #2 on the list.
Truman State - ew, Kirksville. (enough said)
SLU - I'm from the Lou, SLU was always cool but was never really an option for me. My friends that chose to stay there really like it though.
By the way, your daughter doesn't want to go to S&T because she would then be part of the small population of women on campus. On the bright side, if she went there she would probably end up married to a (future rich) Engineer?? There is something known as the "Rolla Bump" know by people my age... any rank 1-10 a female is, add 3 when she is in Rolla. Supply and demand I suppose rotflmao:
I wish your daughter good luck, it's a fun time in her life... MIZ!
Rockhurst - I know very little
UMKC - If your daughter wants to go into the medical field this is a GREAT option, any other program is the ugly stepchild of the UM System. One of my friends did her first 4 at MU and is going to finish up at UMKC.
Mizzou - As a current student I'm clearly biased... BUT, a degree from MU will be known anywhere you go - and the alumni network is huge. All of my friends from Highschool that attend other universities constantly beg to come up and visit (for literally ANY reason, especially on game days). Out of in-state schools, MU has the best experience with plenty of opportunities for networking.
Missouri State - This is the school where most of my friends that chose not to attend MU ended up. I like Springfield, but I'm glad I didn't go to school there... a few of my friends have told me that they wish they chose MU over State. All in all, id say this is #2 on the list.
Truman State - ew, Kirksville. (enough said)
SLU - I'm from the Lou, SLU was always cool but was never really an option for me. My friends that chose to stay there really like it though.
By the way, your daughter doesn't want to go to S&T because she would then be part of the small population of women on campus. On the bright side, if she went there she would probably end up married to a (future rich) Engineer?? There is something known as the "Rolla Bump" know by people my age... any rank 1-10 a female is, add 3 when she is in Rolla. Supply and demand I suppose rotflmao:
I wish your daughter good luck, it's a fun time in her life... MIZ!
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 11:25 am
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