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Texas A&M's move to the SEC changed the state of Texas recruiting landscape a lot
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:48 pm
…….for A&M and the SEC.
Their move did open up the borders for other SEC schools to infiltrate the Lone Star State.
The big difference was for A&M; the SEC was already big, fat, rich, and powerful. But, the SEC became even bigger, fatter, richer, and more powerful.
From a subscriber-only sports website, here are some tidbits about all this....
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* From 2008-2012, just less than 10% of recruits in Texas signed with SEC schools.
* From 2013-2019, that number has increased to over 16% of recruits in Texas signing with SEC schools.
* Since 2013, Texas A&M has caught up to Texas when it comes to signing in-state four-star and five-star players — let’s refer to them as blue-chip recruits — as rated by the 247Sports Composite. In the recruiting classes of 2008 through 2012, the Longhorns signed 79 blue-chip recruits from the state of Texas and the Aggies landed 29. But since the 2013 class, the scoreboard for blue-chip in-state recruits reads Texas 69, Texas A&M 65.
It’s important to understand the recruiting landscape in Texas prior to realignment and Texas A&M’s bold decision to bolt for the SEC. In the recruiting classes of 2008 through 2012, the Longhorns signed twice as many blue-chip Texas recruits as anybody else. Oklahoma signed 32 during that period, just a few more than the Aggies, and nobody else came close to competing with the volume of highly-rated talent Texas was bringing in annually. The only non-Big 12 schools who signed more than five four- or five-star recruits out of Texas during this five-year period were LSU (11), TCU (eight) and Oregon (six). That’s all.
* From 2008-2012.....Seventy-five percent of these coveted recruits in the state of Texas were choosing to play in the Big 12. Rarely did the other conferences find consistent success at stealing top Texas talent. During this five-year period, only 13 blue-chip recruits signed with Pac-12 schools, six picked Big Ten schools and just three picked ACC schools. There were a few high-profile exceptions, like Andrew Luck going to Stanford or five-star Mario Edwards picking Florida State. LSU was thriving at the time and plucked some big-time talents, primarily from the Houston area where some kids perceive LSU as practically an in-state school. Oregon had a strong run in Texas under Chip Kelly, which would eventually lead to NCAA sanctions. But the strong majority of these Texas kids were ultimately content with staying close to home.
This was a tough five-year stretch for Texas A&M football. It’s the entirety of the Mike Sherman era, which yielded a 25-25 record. And though the Aggies still signed and developed some great players during that period, their classes consistently ranked behind both Texas and Oklahoma.
And then they left the Big 12.
And what happened next was a confluence of so many monumental things happening in such a short period of time.
Then....A&M fired Sumlin and Johnny Manziel became a Heisman-winning legend.
….Those two made the Aggies remarkably cool in recruits’ eyes. Texas A&M invested $483 million into first-class football facilities, fueled by ambition and high oil prices. The SEC brand, already booming from seven consecutive national champions, was growing stronger every year. Alabama continued its emergence as the dominant recruiting superpower. And the Longhorns? They fell apart. Brown was pushed out at the end of the 2013 season, and they’ve gone 33-31 ever since.
So what has that done in this state? Texas A&M has capitalized on its rapid rise and Texas’ stumbles and pulled even on elite in-state recruiting. The Aggies have so much more to sell now, with a foundation of steady success to continue building upon — 8+ wins in six of the last seven years, seven first-round NFL draft picks — and the mere timing of their move couldn’t have been more optimal. They’ve differentiated from their former Big 12 foes in a way they couldn’t before.
Their move did open up the borders for other SEC schools to infiltrate the Lone Star State.
The big difference was for A&M; the SEC was already big, fat, rich, and powerful. But, the SEC became even bigger, fatter, richer, and more powerful.
From a subscriber-only sports website, here are some tidbits about all this....
********
* From 2008-2012, just less than 10% of recruits in Texas signed with SEC schools.
* From 2013-2019, that number has increased to over 16% of recruits in Texas signing with SEC schools.
* Since 2013, Texas A&M has caught up to Texas when it comes to signing in-state four-star and five-star players — let’s refer to them as blue-chip recruits — as rated by the 247Sports Composite. In the recruiting classes of 2008 through 2012, the Longhorns signed 79 blue-chip recruits from the state of Texas and the Aggies landed 29. But since the 2013 class, the scoreboard for blue-chip in-state recruits reads Texas 69, Texas A&M 65.
It’s important to understand the recruiting landscape in Texas prior to realignment and Texas A&M’s bold decision to bolt for the SEC. In the recruiting classes of 2008 through 2012, the Longhorns signed twice as many blue-chip Texas recruits as anybody else. Oklahoma signed 32 during that period, just a few more than the Aggies, and nobody else came close to competing with the volume of highly-rated talent Texas was bringing in annually. The only non-Big 12 schools who signed more than five four- or five-star recruits out of Texas during this five-year period were LSU (11), TCU (eight) and Oregon (six). That’s all.
* From 2008-2012.....Seventy-five percent of these coveted recruits in the state of Texas were choosing to play in the Big 12. Rarely did the other conferences find consistent success at stealing top Texas talent. During this five-year period, only 13 blue-chip recruits signed with Pac-12 schools, six picked Big Ten schools and just three picked ACC schools. There were a few high-profile exceptions, like Andrew Luck going to Stanford or five-star Mario Edwards picking Florida State. LSU was thriving at the time and plucked some big-time talents, primarily from the Houston area where some kids perceive LSU as practically an in-state school. Oregon had a strong run in Texas under Chip Kelly, which would eventually lead to NCAA sanctions. But the strong majority of these Texas kids were ultimately content with staying close to home.
This was a tough five-year stretch for Texas A&M football. It’s the entirety of the Mike Sherman era, which yielded a 25-25 record. And though the Aggies still signed and developed some great players during that period, their classes consistently ranked behind both Texas and Oklahoma.
And then they left the Big 12.
And what happened next was a confluence of so many monumental things happening in such a short period of time.
Then....A&M fired Sumlin and Johnny Manziel became a Heisman-winning legend.
….Those two made the Aggies remarkably cool in recruits’ eyes. Texas A&M invested $483 million into first-class football facilities, fueled by ambition and high oil prices. The SEC brand, already booming from seven consecutive national champions, was growing stronger every year. Alabama continued its emergence as the dominant recruiting superpower. And the Longhorns? They fell apart. Brown was pushed out at the end of the 2013 season, and they’ve gone 33-31 ever since.
So what has that done in this state? Texas A&M has capitalized on its rapid rise and Texas’ stumbles and pulled even on elite in-state recruiting. The Aggies have so much more to sell now, with a foundation of steady success to continue building upon — 8+ wins in six of the last seven years, seven first-round NFL draft picks — and the mere timing of their move couldn’t have been more optimal. They’ve differentiated from their former Big 12 foes in a way they couldn’t before.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:49 pm to RatRodDawg
quote:LSU was raiding Texas long before then
Their move did open up the borders for other SEC schools to infiltrate the Lone Star State and it did.

Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:53 pm to RatRodDawg
Texas is SEC country now. This was bound to happen. Glad all the stats now support what Aggies were saying when we left the floundering big 12. 

Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:53 pm to TFS4E
quote:
LSU was raiding Texas long before then
Read the whole post...what you said was mentioned in the abbreviated article.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:54 pm to RatRodDawg
quote:I went to LSU, I can't read.
Read the whole post...what you said was mentioned in the abbreviated article.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:55 pm to TFS4E
Ben Wilk
Matt Flynn
Danielle Hunter
Thomas Dunson
Russell Shaeppard
Jamal Adams
Matt Flynn
Danielle Hunter
Thomas Dunson
Russell Shaeppard
Jamal Adams
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:56 pm to BoerneAg
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Texas is SEC country now. This was bound to happen. Glad all the stats now support what Aggies were saying when we left the floundering big 12.
We all could foresee this happening, and we were told that it would be program-ending, etc. blah blah.
I just like to do this to all the doubters

Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:58 pm to RatRodDawg
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* From 2008-2012, just less than 10% of recruits in Texas signed with SEC schools.
* From 2013-2019, that number has increased to over 16% of recruits in Texas signing with SEC schools.
Adding A&M and Missouri probably has something to do with that increase. A&M for obvious reasons, but Missouri has relied on Texas recruits for a long time.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:03 pm to RatRodDawg
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They’ve differentiated from their former Big 12 foes in a way they couldn’t before.
And with all of that, at the end of the day they still suck. Doesn’t matter what conference they’re in they haven’t won sshit. Here’s their trophy case.
Please send them back to the big 12-2

Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:03 pm to RatRodDawg
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From 2008-2012, just less than 10% of recruits in Texas signed with SEC schools.
* From 2013-2019, that number has increased to over 16% of recruits in Texas signing with SEC schools.
Is this including our signees? Because if so that’s basically saying it didn’t change.
25 * 12 = 300
About 30 signees from Texas per year.
25 * 14 = 350
About 56 signees from Texas per year, a difference of 26 from before. I would guess 85-90% of our signees each year are from Texas.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:05 pm to RatRodDawg
Didn't Billy Liucci write that article for The Athletic
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:15 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
A&M loves to ride the prestigious success of the sec. But yet a&m did not contribute to that success on the field. When folks outside the sec think of the sec they think of Bama, UGA,LSU, UF, Tenn, and Auburn.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:17 pm to RatRodDawg
Caught 3 horns on page 1.
Nice.
Nice.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:20 pm to TFS4E
quote:
LSU was raiding Texas long before then

Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:21 pm to DaronTexas
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A&M loves to ride the prestigious success of the sec. But yet a&m did not contribute to that success on the field. When folks outside the sec think of the sec they think of Bama, UGA,LSU, UF, Tenn, and Auburn.
You followed aggy here like some jilted bitch. We know who you you think of when you think sec.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:27 pm to G2160
Win the sec for once before you beat your chest. Y'all haven't done anything but run y'all mouths since y'all joined.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:27 pm to billbru101
Haha. Oklahoma is the only team from the Big 12 that has played quality football since re-alignment. And A&M waxed that arse in the Cotton Bowl.
The rest of the teams get their asses kicked on the regular by below average P5 teams such as Maryland...
A&M is on point with regards to recruiting, and the SEC is a primary selling point. It ain’t rocket science.
The rest of the teams get their asses kicked on the regular by below average P5 teams such as Maryland...
A&M is on point with regards to recruiting, and the SEC is a primary selling point. It ain’t rocket science.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 1:31 pm
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