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Best value colleges, 2019 Forbes list is out

Posted on 5/3/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 4:25 pm
Top 5 in SEC

20. FLORIDA
28. VANDERBILT
45. TEXAS A&M
66. GEORGIA
110. LSU

LINK
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34748 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 4:32 pm to
These lists always make me wonder how these stack up to Online Non-Profit colleges. The tuition costs don't include room and board costs, so it seems like it's slanted towards on-campus schools.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48823 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 4:35 pm to
Such a deeul, what a bahgan!
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
45401 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 4:38 pm to
“We score them in the following six areas: quality; net price; net debt; alumni earnings; timely graduation; and access for low-income students. Our list evaluates both public and private institutions offering four-year degrees and does not include private for-profit schools.

Our focus highlights schools with the highest quality and best financial outcomes. When it comes to judging quality, we rely on our most recent America's Top Colleges ranking. For financials, we turn to information provided by the federal postsecondary database system known as IPEDS. We judge each school's net price, or sticker price for tuition, fees and room and board minus the grants, scholarships, and education tax benefits that students receive.“
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 5:57 pm to
Sticker Price is bad.... everyone in GA can basically go to UGA free. If that was factored in, it would be impossible to not be #1.

But I understand why they don't. Not fair to schools in states without this benefit.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
45401 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:04 pm to
It says net price so they subtract the grants, scholarships etc from the cost so apparently that is factored in
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 6:06 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42495 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:11 pm to
I am convinced someone at the U of SC banged out the wives of all the writers at Forbes at some point in their life times.

Who and how the frick do they determine best value. What unmitigated bullshite they publish every year. It’s horseshite.

Rantoff/
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:01 pm to
Oh look another dumb list without metrics strangely with Ivy schools at the top. Forbes is such garbage click bait these days. How about they create a list by major and then adjust it for cost of living. A financial analyst making 55k entry level in Little Rock can afford a nice 3 bedroom roomy place to live... Whereas a Harvard grad making 80k living in Boston can afford a 1 bedroom 800 square foot apartment living in a shady part of town. They both pass the CFA yet the Harvard grad had to pay 200k for an education and someone from an SEC public University had to pay 40k. The guy living in little Rock can go get a job in New York with the same company in the same amount of time and be financially better off 4 years out of school because he didn't spend 200 grand on the same finance degree. It's not rocket science but they do teach that at Mississippi State and other SEC universities. Oh and NASA ain't near an Ivy league University. It's in fricken Bama.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21786 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:59 pm to
Where was state ranked? I got tired of scrolling.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
45401 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:09 pm to
They list the metrics used. Sounds pretty objective. I don’t know which part South Carolina is scoring low.
Posted by Shotcaller2
Member since Apr 2019
59 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:53 pm to
LSU alumni probably think being in the 100s is a good thing because it’s “better than perfect”
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
45401 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:56 pm to
Says this brilliant guy

LINK
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Best value colleges

quote:


20. FLORIDA
28. VANDERBILT
45. TEXAS A&M
66. GEORGIA
110. LSU

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

“We score them in the following six areas: quality; net price; net debt; alumni earnings; timely graduation; and access for low-income students. Our list evaluates both public and private institutions offering four-year degrees and does not include private for-profit schools.

Our focus highlights schools with the highest quality and best financial outcomes. When it comes to judging quality, we rely on our most recent America's Top Colleges ranking. For financials, we turn to information provided by the federal postsecondary database system known as IPEDS. We judge each school's net price, or sticker price for tuition, fees and room and board minus the grants, scholarships, and education tax benefits that students receive.“


I have always wondered where these Universities get their data from. I'm sure Forbes doesn't do the research for the data and it is provided by the schools. I have never answered any questionnaire asking about any of those criteria. Today Universities use this data for PR purposes and you have to wonder how skewed is the data.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 2:10 pm to
Yep, its paid for advertising. A 4 year degree doesn't get you a top job, it allows you to apply for one.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
8285 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 2:21 pm to
The Mormon college is a good value? Yawn
Posted by Shotcaller2
Member since Apr 2019
59 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 3:22 pm to
Good one tigerforeskin
Posted by bXII
Member since Dec 2018
629 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 3:53 pm to
Wow, the S E C is not so good in the academics.
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