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"Nick Saban no fan of no-huddle offenses, asks 'Is this what we want football to be?'"
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:53 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:53 am
Nick Saban, October 3rd, 2012.
Now, my play-by-play numbers only go back so far, but leading up to those comments (and through 2012) Alabama huddled over 90% of the time under Saban.
Since then, from 2013-present, Alabama’s offense has huddled fewer than 50% of the time, peaking in 2017 when they huddled right at 30% of the time.
So what says the rant? Is Nick Saban a hypocrite? Does he not care about the safety of players and the fairness for defenses anymore? Or is this just an example of “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em?”
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"[The no-huddle]'s obviously created a tremendous advantage for the offense when teams are scoring 70 points and we're averaging 49.5 points a game. I just think there's got to be some sense of fairness in terms of asking, 'Is this what we want football to be?' "
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"The team gets in the same formation group, you can't substitute defensive players, you go on a 14-, 16-, 18-play drive and they're snapping the ball as fast as you can go and you look out there and all your players are walking around and can't even get lined up. That's when guys have a much greater chance of getting hurt when they're not ready to play."
Now, my play-by-play numbers only go back so far, but leading up to those comments (and through 2012) Alabama huddled over 90% of the time under Saban.
Since then, from 2013-present, Alabama’s offense has huddled fewer than 50% of the time, peaking in 2017 when they huddled right at 30% of the time.
So what says the rant? Is Nick Saban a hypocrite? Does he not care about the safety of players and the fairness for defenses anymore? Or is this just an example of “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em?”
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:58 am
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:54 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
He just adapted to what football is doing now.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:55 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Saban is a master of misdirection so not surprised at the quote. Said it about the time he started implementing more of an uptempo style.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:55 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:57 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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“if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em?”
Pretty much this. He saw the advantages it gives offenses. He didn't like it, but he couldn't change it. So he changed.
ETA:
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Now, my play-by-play numbers only go back so far
Do you seriously track all of Alabama's plays? If so, are you getting paid to do that?
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:57 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Isnt Les Miles refusing to change with the times the reason yall wanted him fired?
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:57 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Saban has three national titles since saying this. 
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:58 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
He made that quote just a few months after shutting out LSU on 1/9/12.
Why would he have wanted offenses to change from what LSU offered? Too easy
Why would he have wanted offenses to change from what LSU offered? Too easy
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:03 pm to elposter
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Do you seriously track all of Alabama's plays? If so, are you getting paid to do that?
One of my guys here could help answer that for you: CFB Analysis
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:04 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
It's was no surprise before that that Saban doesn't care about his players safety and needs rules and refs to favor him or he will end up alot of Clemson, Oklahoma, Utah, ULM, etc type games.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:05 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Everything is not black and white. Since Saban said those things I'd assume he meant it but once he realized it would not change do you think he's going to risk not winning games with all of that pressure he's constantly under? He adjusted. He changed. Something Les Miles couldn't do.
I'm grateful for Miles, though. Blindly running the ball with Fournette into that Bama brick wall was pretty satisfying to watch. 8 in a reaux.
I'm grateful for Miles, though. Blindly running the ball with Fournette into that Bama brick wall was pretty satisfying to watch. 8 in a reaux.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:06 pm to Rabern57
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It's was no surprise before that that Saban doesn't care about his players safety and needs rules and refs to favor him or he will end up alot of Clemson, Oklahoma, Utah, ULM, etc type games.
That's the honesty I was looking for.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:06 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
It’s disappointing to read that Saban is whining like this.
When Spurrier came into the league defensive minded HCs and D-coordinators never whined. They adapted. Small, faster, LBs and DE. Bigger stronger safeties. CBs that can play man.
Nick ... get with the program.
When Spurrier came into the league defensive minded HCs and D-coordinators never whined. They adapted. Small, faster, LBs and DE. Bigger stronger safeties. CBs that can play man.
Nick ... get with the program.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:06 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
I don't fault Saban for this. He's evolving bc it's required, but that doesn't mean he has to be a fan of it.
Credit to him for putting his personal opinion aside to achieve success.
Credit to him for putting his personal opinion aside to achieve success.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:07 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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"they're snapping the ball as fast as you can go and you look out there and all your players are walking around and can't even get lined up. That's when guys have a much greater chance of getting hurt when they're not ready to play
He was specifically talking about the "fastball" offenses that are hurry up no huddle (hence the no time to line up part).
Here is where Alabama ranks in plays per game the last 6 years
2013 - #116
2014 - #72
2015 - #49
2016 - #59
2017 - #90
2018 - #87
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:07 pm to Rabern57
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It's was no surprise before that that Saban doesn't care about his players safety and needs rules and refs to favor him
Little man syndrome, indeed.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:07 pm to scrooster
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It’s disappointing to read that Saban is whining like this. When Spurrier came into the league defensive minded HCs and D-coordinators never whined. They adapted. Small, faster, LBs and DE. Bigger stronger safeties. CBs that can play man.
Sounds like you didn't read what the OP wrote...
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Saban didn't want to change. Kiffin had to drag him kicking and screaming into modern offensive football.
Saban came to resent him for that and pushed him out.
Saban came to resent him for that and pushed him out.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:11 pm to scrooster
Not currently whining. Quotes from 2012
OP asking why he said that in 2012 and now has completely changed
OP asking why he said that in 2012 and now has completely changed
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:12 pm to KennesawTiger
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Saban didn't want to to change. Kiffin had to drag him kicking screaming into modern offensive football.
Saban came to resent him for that and pushed him out.
And he’s still using his philosophies today.
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