I don't understand why people give Saban so much credit for all these 1st round picks

Throw your hands in the air, if you's a true player.

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under Saban

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It’s not hard to get the top recruiting class when he gives them cars, cash, weed, and guns.

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I don't understand why people give Saban so much credit for all these 1st round picks

You have the top recruiting class ever year.... But lets not act like Saban is really producing 1st rounders. Most of them were already destined to be one before Saban.

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This was after the 2018 draft:

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There will be some that think, “Of course Alabama had the most players drafted. They get the best recruits.” That is true. But it’s also not a holistic look at what makes the Crimson Tide great under Nick Saban. Instead, one needs to examine Alabama’s NFL factory process; the rate at which the program transforms elite high school talent into NFL players. To do so, 247Sports looked at every five-star prospect of the Saban era and their eventual NFL Draft future. That means players from the 2008 recruiting class (Saban’s first full cycle at Alabama) to the 2015 recruiting classes (the most recent class with draft eligibility), excluding any athletes who remain in college.

There are 241 247Sports Composite five-star players from college football in that period – the elite of elite coming out of high school.

Alabama, unsurprisingly, signed the highest total of those at 29. But that’s not the important number. To truly grade development you must observe the number of those recruits who became first-round picks. That’s the full college cycle of development — a choice prospect comes in and a highly-regarded NFL talent comes out.

Fourteen of those 29 eventually became a first-round pick in Tuscaloosa, a rate of 48.3 percent that doesn’t count six other Crimson Tide five-stars that were second-round picks.

For some needed perspective on that number, let’s look at how the other FBS teams fared.

Take away Alabama’s 29 five-star players from that window, and there are 212 five-star recruits. Some schools have had a lot (Florida State: 24) in that 2008-15 period, while others have had just one (13 different schools). Taken together, the number of first-round picks from that five-star pool minus Alabama is 36.

That’s a hit rate of only 17 percent.

Think about that. Alabama’s five-star recruits are picked in the first round at a rate of 48.3 percent, while five-star recruits that go to any other school are selected at a 17-percent clip. A five-star prospect who picks Alabama is more than doubly likely be selected in the first round than if he goes anywhere else.

The numbers don’t stop there. Alabama’s five-star recruits as a whole in that 2008-15 recruiting period are drafted at a 75.9 percent clip. Earlier this week, 247Sports looked at draft data from the last two years and found that five-star recruits are generally picked at around a 61 percent ratio. Take away Alabama’s yearly haul from that group, and the percentage drops to 54.2.

So while 75.9 percent of Alabama five-star players are drafted in the Saban era, only 54.2 of all others hear their named called.

That’s a staggering gap in development.

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Saban/Alabama develop players better than the rest

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Now do percentage of 5 stars that end up at Alabama.

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You're not very good at math are you?

Josh Jacobs was no five star and I'm sure Q. Williams was a 4 star---most big time programs have 4 star recruits.

Saban gets top players and develops them. You don't see the bust rate that B. Bowden and Pete Carroll, or even Phil Fulmer had with their top ranking classes.

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Now do percentage of 5 stars that end up at Alabama.

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We already knew that you don't do math very well. This is just more evidence. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together who has spent longer than ten minutes following sports knows that, if you've got the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth, with two outs and down a run, you'd rather have up the guy with a .417 average and 250 ABs and not the guy with a .170 average even though he has 550 ABs.

If you truly look at it, he's underachieved with all that talent.

Jacobs was ranked 469 in the composite rankings, the 11th best APB.

Williams was ranked 155 overal, 17th best DT.