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re: Bama and UGA make top 10 party schools in America

Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:05 pm to
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So let me ask you this. If the acceptance policy and calculations are not publicized by Alabama, then how do YOU know those calculations?



Because I know a few HS Counselors. It is not a well kept secret in the Education World. It has always occurred, but not with the numbers we see today. Just keep believing I made this up.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:10 pm to
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UAB, Auburn, all the privates. As I stated before, this was when I applied 10 years ago when Alabama was trying to get enrollment up. Maybe they've curbed this. But it was pretty low then.


Completely false. Alabama and auburns admissions requirements have always been the same and have always been the top two in the state.
Posted by auisssa
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:12 pm to
Sure buddy.

Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:13 pm to
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It is well know with HS College Counselors. I am sure a lot of UA Alum know what I talking about, especially if they know someone in education. Again, you are in that group of people who claim if its not on the internet, it isn't true.



Dude I worked in higher education at Spring Hill and USA. You are just wrong. You are not getting into Alabama with less than an 18
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:14 pm to
You’d see BAMA in the top 10 from having 1/3 of their enrollment in the Greek system
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:17 pm to
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You’d see BAMA in the top 10 from having 1/3 of their enrollment in the Greek system



It used to be over 40%
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:17 pm to
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I grew up and have lived in Houston basically my entire life

Venture out a little you weirdo
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Dude I worked in higher education at Spring Hill and USA. You are just wrong. You are not getting into Alabama with less than an 18


Spring Hill is a private school correct and USA is not part of the UA System. You are as wrong about Alabama and Special Admission policy as all the rest. Call your friends who are still in higher education and ask. Get back with us.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Bama has some of the lowest standards in the state of Alabama.


Welp, that's a lie. The acceptance rate is published.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:32 pm to
From UA wedsite: SPECIAL ADMISSIONS

"Undergraduate applicants who are denied admission to the University may appeal the admission decision if they have academic achievements, personal achievements, or special circumstances that were not considered when the admissions decision was made. Applicants must contact the Office of the Assistant Vice President for Enrollment Management for additional information."

That is the loophole in the system, plus they are counted as a "denied admissions" student.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:33 pm to
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Irons Puppet



You are wrong about Auburn not having a Special Admissions policy. However, it is less frequently used at Auburn as the intent is to increase minority enrollment and enrollment of students with disabilities, and Auburn works very hard to suppress those numbers.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:39 pm to
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ou are wrong about Auburn not having a Special Admissions policy. However, it is less frequently used at Auburn as the intent is to increase minority enrollment and enrollment of students with disabilities, and Auburn works very hard to suppress those numbers.


Not saying AU didn't have a policy, all schools do. Here is AUs:Individuals applying to Auburn as first-time College students, who are graduates of an accredited high school, may be admitted to Auburn on a conditional basis if they have inadequate SAT or ACT scores or high school records such that they would not qualify for regular admission. These students will be given an opportunity to demonstrate that they can make reasonable progress toward a degree. Upon completion of 15 college credit hours of approved courses at Auburn University, these students must have a cumulative grade point average of 2.0 or higher (on a 4.0 scale) to remain at Auburn.

I even said these polices have been around a long time. But Bama is bringing in a lot of student instate under these circumstances in order to achieve their growth projection. By doing this they are also having to offer out of state student with good grades full scholarships.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:50 pm to
Individuals applying to Auburn as first-time College students, who are graduates of an accredited high school, may be admitted to Auburn on a conditional basis if they have inadequate SAT or ACT scores or high school records such that they would not qualify for regular admission. These students will be given an opportunity to demonstrate that they can make reasonable progress toward a degree. Upon completion of 15 college credit hours of approved courses at Auburn University, these students must have a cumulative grade point average of 2.0 or higher (on a 4.0 scale) to remain at Auburn.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:51 pm to
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I even said these polices have been around a long time. But Bama is bringing in a lot of student instate under these circumstances in order to achieve their growth projection. By doing this they are also having to offer out of state student with good grades full scholarships.



You said that, but you don't seem to have any idea how they work. It has nothing to do with the full scholarships, and ZERO to do with growth rate. (It's actually kind of funny that you think this is where the growth is coming from.) The special admissions category at UA is SPECIFICALLY for, say, a person with a slight mental disability who is a talented artist, a black kid who didn't score well on tests, but has proven himself to be an entrepreneur or community leader, or maybe a gifted composer of music who is a poor student of mathematics.

The idea is that there are many, many people who can thrive in a school of music, or arts, or the school of social work who don't fare well on tests designed for schools of engineering or health sciences. THAT is why there are special admissions.

Nobody is just taking a bunch of dumbass white kids from somewhere like Pratville to bump enrollment.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15475 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Spring Hill is a private school correct and USA is not part of the UA System. You are as wrong about Alabama and Special Admission policy as all the rest. Call your friends who are still in higher education and ask. Get back with us.


Why dont you back up what you are saying with data? Should be simple to compare admission standards for all colleges in Alabama 10 years ago. Find it curious you dont
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:54 pm to
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Individuals applying to Auburn as first-time College students, who are graduates of an accredited high school, may be admitted to Auburn on a conditional basis if they have inadequate SAT or ACT scores or high school records such that they would not qualify for regular admission. These students will be given an opportunity to demonstrate that they can make reasonable progress toward a degree. Upon completion of 15 college credit hours of approved courses at Auburn University, these students must have a cumulative grade point average of 2.0 or higher (on a 4.0 scale) to remain at Auburn.


Duck, catch. about 11 minutes late.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:56 pm to
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Why dont you back up what you are saying with data? Should be simple to compare admission standards for all colleges in Alabama 10 years ago. Find it curious you dont


Again, what school would publish Special Admission numbers?
Call your old friends and confirm what I am saying. It is not a secret.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:58 pm to
I have to chuckle when I read Gumps and Aubies arguing academic standards. It’s like two mules fightin’ over a turnip.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:08 pm to
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You said that, but you don't seem to have any idea how they work. It has nothing to do with the full scholarships, and ZERO to do with growth rate. (It's actually kind of funny that you think this is where the growth is coming from.) The special admissions category at UA is SPECIFICALLY for, say, a person with a slight mental disability who is a talented artist, a black kid who didn't score well on tests, but has proven himself to be an entrepreneur or community leader, or maybe a gifted composer of music who is a poor student of mathematics. The idea is that there are many, many people who can thrive in a school of music, or arts, or the school of social work who don't fare well on tests designed for schools of engineering or health sciences. THAT is why there are special admissions. Nobody is just taking a bunch of dumbass white kids from somewhere like Pratville to bump enrollment.


It is a numbers game. To increase enrollment in the short period of time, Bama had to bend their own admission practice. They brought in students they normally wouldn't have, in order to balance out the number of student from out of state. To get the number of quality students in school to increase the overall quality of student numbers, they had to attract good out of state students and offer large financial packages. When it was a instate 70/30 ratio, it was ignored. But now that it is a 55/45 out of state advantage, people are starting to complain. Tuition continued to increase and the taxpayers where paying for the growth.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:10 pm
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15475 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Duck, catch. about 11 minutes late.


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