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re: Bama and UGA make top 10 party schools in America

Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:22 pm to
More relevant than baseball rankings tbh
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:26 pm to
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UGA gets a boost because of all the Auburn kids who drive over there on the weekends to moonlight as potential transfer students


It’s been that way for decades. And why not. I spent a month in Auburn one weekend.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:38 pm to
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How are grades calculated?
with a heavy dose of bias. 70% of the weight for the party scene composite came from student survey responses.

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- Student Surveys on Party Scene: Niche survey responses scored on a 1-5 scale regarding the quality of the party scene at each school.Self-reported by Niche users; weighted at 70.0%
- Access to Bars: A measure of both the proximity (per square mile) and the availability (per capita) of bars and similar establishments; weighted at 10.0%
- Athletics Grade: Niche Athletics grade, which incorporates factors such as number of national championships won, athletic department revenue, as well as student surveys regarding athletics on campus; weighted at 7.5%
-Greek Life Grade: Niche Greek Life grade, which incorporates statistics and student surveys regarding Greek life on campus
Weighted at 7.5%
- Access to Restaurants: A measure of both the proximity (per square mile) and the availability (per capita) of full-service restaurants; weighted at 5%


Would have been interesting to see PI, DUI, drunk and disorderly, drug arrests, minor in possesion, condom/alcohol sales, and a variety of sexually related health stats as a factor.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:39 pm to
Bama will accept students with below 18 ACTs and put them in a probation category . It is how they are attracting in-state students. They do not count them with their reported statistics.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:53 pm to
If Georgia Southern isn't on this list it is invalid. That's ALL they do.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:56 pm to
Well, even if that's true, which I'm not sure, is that a bad thing? Last week the Auburn people were complaining about the number of out-of-state students Alabama is attracting at the expense of instate students. But this week its bad to recruit lower ranked in-state students?

And you have a link for your claim?

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:38 pm to
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Well, even if that's true, which I'm not sure, is that a bad thing? Last week the Auburn people were complaining about the number of out-of-state students Alabama is attracting at the expense of instate students. But this week its bad to recruit lower ranked in-state students?

And you have a link for your claim?



Ask any HS Counselor from Alabama and they will confirm it. Some feel it is watering down their own degrees from the University. The problem is they are having to offer the world to out of state students to try and maintain some semblance of academic accomplishment. It is not about the States lack of qualified students, it is about the ego involved in the growth of the University. They had to announce that there would not be a tuition increase for instate students next year, not because they felt generous, but because they are finally getting pushback from taxpayers.
Posted by bXII
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:40 pm to
Texas A&M is the #1 school for all male parties
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:43 pm to
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Bama will accept students with below 18 ACTs and put them in a probation category


They are called football players and how dare you
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4161 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:51 pm to
Yeah, so no link.

Gotcha
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:54 pm to
Who would write an article about that subject? The University’s PR Dept. ? Not all the issues in the world have a link associated with it, you must be in your 20s. Do some research.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:57 pm to
The SEC doesn’t allow that to happen.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8283 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:00 pm to
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LSU has really dropped off in this category...


When I was a student, I believe it was in '01, we were #1 according to the Princeton Review.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4161 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:19 pm to
So you make a claim that you can't back up and it's my issue? I'm not going to research your claim.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:24 pm to
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So you make a claim that you can't back up and it's my issue? I'm not going to research your claim.



It is well know with HS College Counselors. I am sure a lot of UA Alum know what I talking about, especially if they know someone in education. Again, you are in that group of people who claim if its not on the internet, it isn't true.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4161 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:36 pm to
Nope. You made a specific claim that some students aren't included in admittance numbers. That should be "on the internet" if true.

I doubt high school counselors would know who is included in the UA averages. Why would they? Their focus is getting kids in college, not how the college computes admission data.

Pardon me for not taking the word of an Auburn fan who seemingly hates Alabama.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:52 pm to
It's not true because it is not true.

Acceptance rates are based on first time/first year, fall term, full time students. In most every case, IPEDS collects the data as a part of the Dept of Ed. Alabama, as a public university, does not get to pick and choose the reporting criteria.

Their academic status as a probationary test score student wouldn't affect it. If they were brought in as transfer, part time or during spring or summer/winter intercession, then maybe it would have merit.

All that said, acceptance rates are deceptive in many other ways, as the quality of total applicants is rarely reported. Plus, they have absolutely no bearing as an indicator of the quality of education.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:54 pm to
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Nope. You made a specific claim that some students aren't included in admittance numbers. That should be "on the internet" if true.


Why ? That is University provided information. Would you advertise it ?

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I doubt high school counselors would know who is included in the UA averages. Why would they? Their focus is getting kids in college, not how the college computes admission data.



They work closely with recruiter of the Universities. They know the scores and the transcripts of all graduating students heading for college.

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Pardon me for not taking the word of an Auburn fan who seemingly hates Alabama.




This isn't about football you dumbass. It is about the quality of education that the state taxpayers are paying for. As a taxpayer of the State, the last thing I want is a University in the State to be unsuccessful fulfilling its mission to the citizens of the state. frick football, that is why I have issues with some Bama fans. You can not separate the two.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4161 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:00 pm to
Haha, I'm on record in this thread saying positive things about Auburn.

And once again it's my issue... lol

So let me ask you this. If the acceptance policy and calculations are not publicized by Alabama, then how do YOU know those calculations?

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:01 pm to
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It's not true because it is not true.

Acceptance rates are based on first time/first year, fall term, full time students. In most every case, IPEDS collects the data as a part of the Dept of Ed. Alabama, as a public university, does not get to pick and choose the reporting criteria.

Their academic status as a probationary test score student wouldn't affect it. If they were brought in as transfer, part time or during spring or summer/winter intercession, then maybe it would have merit.

All that said, acceptance rates are deceptive in many other ways, as the quality of total applicants is rarely reported. Plus, they have absolutely no bearing as an indicator of the quality of education.




bullshite, the school provides that information for one purpose only. It is used for listings in rankings. The probationary test score students are not counted against those data that are given to those collecting media.

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All that said, acceptance rates are deceptive in many other ways, as the quality of total applicants is rarely reported. Plus, they have absolutely no bearing as an indicator of the quality of education.



That is why the Dept of Ed Alabama does worry about acceptance rates.
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